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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
David Johnston wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> David Johnston wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Orwell predicted the surveillance society.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But got it utterly wrong with lots of the detail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't even see much of Animal Farm in the west.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since Animal Farm was a depiction of the history of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Soviet Union, why would you expect to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It clearly was warning that that might happen in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> west too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't find that clear at all. The message I got was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bolsheviks are just as bad as the capitalists of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> west".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact nothing even remotely like the capitalists of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> west on that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I perceive that you know nothing about Orwell's politics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're wrong
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hm. Maybe I am. On consideration it could be more accurate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to say that that Orwell was saying that the Bolsheviks are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just as bad as the fascists of the west. The Francos, Hitlers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Mussolinis.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That isnt really what Animal Farm was saying either.
>>>>>>>>>>>> None of those were ever silly enough to
>>>>>>>>>>>> try claiming that everyone was equal.
>>>>>>>>>>> The humans DON"T say that everyone is equal. That's what the
>>>>>>>>>>> pigs say, but they lie.
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't say anything about who said it.
>>>>>>>>> Then you didn't say anything relevant.
>>>>>>>> Says he carefully deleting what was relevant, again.
>>>>>>> No. It wasn't.
>>>>>> Corse it was with the left in the west being into that equal stuff.
>>>>>> Your claim that it was just about what happened in Russia is
>>>>>> just plain wrong.
>>>>> Orwell was part of the left in the west.
>>>> Duh. And that is why Animal Farm wasn't just about Russia.
>>> Only in the sense that he was warning other leftists to steer clear of
>>> the Stalinists.
>> He was actually pointing out what happens with that mentality.
>> 1984 wasn't about a specific current system either.
> 1984 wasn't. Animal Farm was.
Wrong, as always.
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