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   In article , 2671 <2671@gmail.com>   
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   > > In article , 2671 <2671@gmail.com>   
   > > wrote:   
   > >> "Your Name"  wrote in message   
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   > >> > In article , Ryk E. Spoor   
   > >> >  wrote:   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >>  (and I REALLY hate the modern trend for "no keys for your car". I   
   > >> >> LIKE   
   > >> >> a physical key system, thanks.)   
   > >> >   
   > >> > Yep, no key is sheer idiocy and a system designed for and to encourage   
   > >> > the terminally lazy. Most of the "keyless" entry cars currently can   
   > >> > still use keys for the doors, but not to actually start the car.   
   > >> >   
   > >> > As an aside, you should ALWAYS manually check that ALL your car doors   
   > >> > are locked when leaving the car anywhere.   
   > >>   
   > >> No thanks, the failure rate is so low that it isn't worth the trouble.   
   > >   
   > > It partly depends on the age of your car,   
   >   
   > Much more on what sort of car you chose to buy.   
      
   Being any car with central locking, whether that's via a remote, an   
   internal button on the driver's door, or using the key on the driver's   
   door, it's all the same process mechanically.   
      
      
      
   > > but with the growing number of recalls for various products these days,   
   > > attention to detail and quality of products is becoming more   
   > > questionable in the rush to simply shovel out a new version.   
   >   
   > The reality is that very few of us ever get any recalls on any of our cars.   
      
   Maybe not, but the instances of recall seem to be growing.   
      
      
      
   > I didn't even have any warranty claims on my latest. The battery did   
   > eventually develop a fault rather than just needing to be replaced   
   > eventually but the only consequence of that was that it got replaced   
   > a little earlier than it would have been otherwise. A complete yawn.   
      
   I've had my car just over 15 years and replaced the battery for only   
   the second time last year.   
      
      
      
   > >> > I few years ago I got back into my car and discovered the passenger   
   > >> > door was unlocked - despite making the clicking sound with the central   
   > >> > locking, the door was not actually locking due to a faulty servo-motor.   
   > >> > Since then I always check each door and the book / trunk manually.   
   > >>   
   > >> More fool you.   
   > >   
   > > Nope, I just don't want my car stolen or stolen from, which is quite   
   > > likely since it is a model that was top of the police's most stolen   
   > > list for about six years in a row, until last year (in fact it appeared   
   > > on the list twice, under the New Zealand name and the Japanese import   
   > > name).   
   >   
   > Some of us have enough of a clue to buy a car which isnt popular   
   > with thieves   
      
   Personally I don't want an ugly, underpowered car which nobody would   
   want to be seen dead in.  ;-)   
      
      
      
   > which isn't easy for thieves to get into   
      
   Any car is easy for theives to get into - there's nothing easier than   
   breaking the window or forcing a lock.   
      
      
      
   > and park the car close to where we are in the house most of the   
   > time   
      
   My car is always parked inside the garage when at home, and I always   
   park it in a highly publicly visible location when anywhere else,   
   including avoiding parking buildings and parking near the entrances in   
   shopping malls.   
      
      
      
      
   > so that even someone trying car doors to see if any have been   
   > unlocked will trigger an alarm. And with my car, if the solenoid has   
   > failed and someone enters the locked car that way, the car alarm will go   
   > off and I will do something about that using the rotty and the shotty.   
      
   My car does have an alarm (which includes an imobliser) which would go   
   off when the door is opened.   
      
      
      
      
   > I don't even bother to check all the doors and trunk when I leave   
   > it in the supermarket carpark either, because as I say, if the solenoid   
   > has failed and someone does succeed in getting into the car when   
   > its locked that way, the car alarm will go off, and I will be notified   
   > that that has happened and I will be out of the store and back at   
   > the car in seconds because I will assume some arsehole has broken   
   > a window and I will need to call the cops to deal with him and I   
   > will observe that individual so that if he isnt at the car when the   
   > cops show up, I know where he has gone.   
      
   When you're out, you're not always within earshot of your car, and   
   unfortunately most people simply ignore car alarms because they go off   
   far too often for no useful reason (even just a car with a noisy   
   exhaust going past can set off some vibration sensitive car alarms).   
      
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