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From: rexjohns@nospam.com
"Your Name" wrote in message
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> In article , rex
> wrote:
>> "Your Name" wrote in message
>> news:240120140903107097%YourName@YourISP.com...
>> > In article , David
>> > Friedman wrote:
>> >> In article <220120141849207998%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>> >> Your Name wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I once had map software on my laptop while I was entering St.
>> >> > > Louis
>> >> > > via
>> >> > > a bridge across the Mississippi try to tell me to take a left turn
>> >> > > from
>> >> > > the divided interstate highway bridge a hundred feet up in the air
>> >> > > onto
>> >> > > the riverside jogging/bike path below.
>> >> >
>> >> > One example of NUMEROUS that prove self-driving cars simply aren't
>> >> > going to happen any time soon.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think that follows. As best I can tell, the Google
>> >> self-driving
>> >> car doesn't rely on just GPS and maps. It has mechanisms for watching
>> >> the actual road and traffic.
>> >>
>> >> You might as well argue that human driven cars aren't going to happen
>> >> any time soon. They too rely on a combination of information sources,
>> >> one of which is often the GPS.
>> >
>> > Human drivers (hopefully) also use intelligence, common sens, and an
>> > ability to make decisions for themselves ...three things a computer
>> > simply cannot currently have, no matter how complicated the programming
>> > is.
>>
>> In fact a number of computer systems do have that capability.
>
> Nope. No computer comes even close to having such things on the same
> level as an average human being ... they aren't even close enough to an
> extremely stupid baby.
You are wrong.
>> > Human drivers can also read road signs no matter where they are placed
>> > (other than behind a tree!), whereas a computer will have difficulty
>> > doing that in EVERY instance.
>>
>> It is in fact quite easy for a computer to do that better than a human
>> can.
>
> Only if ALL the road signs exist, are fully / mostly visible,
The most important road signs like signs indicating
which are one way roads always are, for a reason.
> located in pretty much the same place,
No need for that, the self driving car has to be able
to see signs like stop signs and give way signs and
so it is no harder to allow for one way signs too.
And speed limit signs and advisory speed signs too.
hasn't been stolen since yesterday,
> etc., etc.
The database handles those fine.
>> > Then there are facts like many roads simply not having markings for the
>> > computer to see, or having duplicate markings where the road has been
>> > changed for some reason.
>>
>> But with those, the computer can use the database
>> and knows how the road should be marked.
>
> Again, a MASSIVE task to try and keep it updated.
Its done now, because GPS systems need that.
What's the point in
> having a car that can drive itself, when you then have to relgate
> millions of people to doing boring and pointless data entry.
Its done now, because GPS system need that. Its actually automated
from the operation that sets the speed limits and decides which
streets are one way etc.
>> > The possibilities for something not thought of in the programming
>> > are endless.
>>
>> And yet computers do some things much better than a human
>> can ever do.
>
> Some things, yes, but mostly extremely simple things
Not with medical diagnosis, flying high performance
military aircraft which can't even be flown at all by a
human if the computer control stops working.
and in many cases
> only done faster, not necessarily better.
Much better in fact with all of medical diagnosis,
aircraft blind landing systems, control of complex
machinery.
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