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   Your Name to chrysicat@gmail.com   
   Re: cases where SF has predicted scienti   
   24 Jan 14 19:07:58   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.science   
   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   In article <9gkEu.281452$PK.1844@fx23.iad>, Chrysi Cat   
    wrote:   
   > On 1/23/2014 5:21 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   > > In article <1xxsbf7bzxt8w.1244utm9kehz9.dlg@40tude.net>, Brian M. Scott   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 09:27:46 +1300, Your Name   
   > >>  wrote in   
   > >>  in   
   > >> rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.science,rec.arts.sf.misc:   
   > >>   
   > >> [...]   
   > >>   
   > >>> The problem is "surveys" are never accurate because they   
   > >>> simply ask far too few people [...]   
   > >>   
   > >> On the contrary, sample size is rarely a problem.  The   
   > >> problem is getting a simple random sample.   
   > >   
   > > Few surveys are actually random. Idiot companies like Neilsen pick and   
   > > choose who can and can't be surveyed in the pretense of obtaining a   
   > > "statistically equivalent" ratio of people, which in itself means it's   
   > > never going to be random nor accurate.   
   > >   
   > > Sample size is also a big problem. There's no point asking 50 people   
   > > out of a population of 50 million ... the results are useless, and the   
   > > way such results are reported is even worse. The survey is ONLY ever   
   > > going to be accurate for those 50 people. Anything else supposedly   
   > > "proven" is pure gueswork and manipulation, and often (especially in   
   > > marketing) statistically manipulated to "prove" whatever the people   
   > > paying for it want it to "prove".   
   >   
   > If I didn't know better, I'd say "Shawn-like typing detected".   
   > Statistics work. If you couldn't extrapolate from a proper sample (which   
   > would probably be closer to 500 or 5000 for that 50 mil), then we'd   
   > pretty much be up a creek for knowing what people do and think...   
      
   What do you mean "we'd be"?!? It's already a known fact. Besides which,   
   most polls and surveys are a worthless waste and piles of money of time   
   anyway ... the mis-reporting of results of medical surveys is   
   down-right dangerous.   
      
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