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   JRStern to jclarkeusenet@cox.net   
   Re: Powerful Societies (finally changing   
   23 Jan 14 22:37:01   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.science   
   From: JRStern@foobar.invalid   
      
   On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:17:33 -0500, "J. Clarke"   
    wrote:   
      
   >In article ,   
   >JRStern@foobar.invalid says...   
   >>   
   >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:05:58 -0600, Doc O'Leary   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >In article ,   
   >> > Greg Goss  wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> Modern North Americans just cannot fathom the scale of a horse-based   
   >> >> society.   
   >> >   
   >> >s/horse-based/sustainable   
   >> >   
   >> >And, sadly, the problem isn't just limited to North American.  The   
   >> >majority of sci-fi hand waves abundant energy into the future, but the   
   >> >reality is that, so far, that appears to be the hardest hurdle we have   
   >> >facing us.   
   >>   
   >> It is hard, even (!) fusion has proved way more difficult than   
   >> anticipated and maybe we'd better assume that ground-based fusion (as   
   >> opposed to gathering the fusion power of the sun) will never be a   
   >> practical fuel source.   
   >   
   >Why?  Unless something goes badly wrong with the next interation of   
   >fusion research in the EU the major technical hurdles will have been   
   >solved.   
      
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   >   
   >> But then, what choice does scifi have, the energy to move a starship   
   >> around at sub-light speeds, the unknown energy required to move it at   
   >> super-light speeds, and you have to store it all in a couple of D-cell   
   >> containers? Y'know, in the real universe it may just never happen that   
   >> way, and what are we gonna do, burn all the old scifi stories?   
   >>   
   >> I therefore salute how Stargate uses ZPM's - except that I doubt that   
   >> should a ZPM exist it could be zapped around through the stargate, as   
   >> the ZPM is usually portrayed as holding a lot of energy, not just   
   >> being a clever device to access it from another dimension or whatever.   
   >> Well whatever, just a quibble I sometimes have when watching.   
   >>   
   >> J.   
   >   
      
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