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   In article ,   
   JRStern@foobar.invalid says...   
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   > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 06:27:58 -0500, "J. Clarke"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > >In article <8d24e9tchuoer84a9jm38nq3e950kucrgg@4ax.com>,   
   > >JRStern@foobar.invalid says...   
   > >>   
   > >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 23:17:33 -0500, "J. Clarke"   
   > >>  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >> >In article ,   
   > >> >JRStern@foobar.invalid says...   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:05:58 -0600, Doc O'Leary   
   > >> >>  wrote:   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> >In article ,   
   > >> >> > Greg Goss  wrote:   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> >> Modern North Americans just cannot fathom the scale of a horse-based   
   > >> >> >> society.   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> >s/horse-based/sustainable   
   > >> >> >   
   > >> >> >And, sadly, the problem isn't just limited to North American.  The   
   > >> >> >majority of sci-fi hand waves abundant energy into the future, but the   
   > >> >> >reality is that, so far, that appears to be the hardest hurdle we have   
   > >> >> >facing us.   
   > >> >>   
   > >> >> It is hard, even (!) fusion has proved way more difficult than   
   > >> >> anticipated and maybe we'd better assume that ground-based fusion (as   
   > >> >> opposed to gathering the fusion power of the sun) will never be a   
   > >> >> practical fuel source.   
   > >> >   
   > >> >Why?  Unless something goes badly wrong with the next interation of   
   > >> >fusion research in the EU the major technical hurdles will have been   
   > >> >solved.   
   > >>   
   > >> (C) Copyright 1974.   
   > >   
   > >Please provide an assertion that "the major technical hurdles have been   
   > >solved" from 1974.   
   > >   
   > >> (C) Copyright 1984.   
   > >   
   > >Please provide an assertion that "the major technical hurdles have been   
   > >solved" from 1984.   
   > >   
   > >> (C) Copyright 1994.   
   > >   
   > >Please provide an assertion that "the major technical hurdles have been   
   > >solved" from 1994.   
   > >   
   > >> (C) Copyright 2004.   
   > >> (C) Copyright 2014.   
   > >   
   > >Nothing has changed in fusion research between 2004 and 2014.  Currently   
   > >the project in progress then is still in progress and is expected to be   
   > >complete around 2027.  There have been delays that have nothing to do   
   > >with technology and everything to do with greenies and lawyers.   
   >   
   > What specific project are *you* referring to?   
      
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