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   Doc O'Leary to David DeLaney   
   Re: Artificial Cheating (another corner    
   29 Jan 14 11:39:24   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.sf.written, rec.arts.sf.science   
   From: droleary@8usenet2013.subsume.com   
      
   In article <44GdnTxUJ8LjpXXPnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@earthlink.com>,   
    David DeLaney  wrote:   
      
   > On 2014-01-28, Doc O'Leary  wrote:   
   > >  David DeLaney  wrote:   
   > >> Dave, and in the end it doesn't matter because we don't have a good   
   > >> definition of "I" yet in the "I have free will!" utterance   
   > >   
   > > Now you do: Your sense of self is derived from your own understanding of   
   > > your Expectation Engine.  The less you understand it, the more you think   
   > > having free will or not is an actual problem.   
   >   
   > I still see no definition in that gobbledegook sentence that's anywhere near   
   > good. _You_ may think you know what it means, but I assure you you have not   
   > communicated your intent, or the rigorous definition, if that's the case.   
      
   As I have said before, at some point things get so off-topic that you   
   need to take up the topic elsewhere if you want to dig further into the   
   details.  If you really care, read over the archives of   
   comp.ai.philosophy and/or start a new discussion there.  All that really   
   matters from a sci-fi perspective is that either you *do* have good   
   definitions for those things, or you handwave AI as "positronic brain"   
   or some other black box device.   
      
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