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   John Ames to Steve Hayes   
   Re: SF: Book recommendations   
   03 Feb 26 12:20:30   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books, rec.arts.sf.written   
   From: commodorejohn@gmail.com   
      
   On Tue, 03 Feb 2026 07:05:32 +0200   
   Steve Hayes  wrote:   
      
   > > "That Hideous Strength" is kind of a mess, but an audacious one.   
   > > His other two "Space Trilogy" books are fine indeed, and all three   
   > > had a major influence on me as a writer. A fascinating blend of   
   > > old-school "planetary romance," theology/mysticism, and social   
   > > commentary.   
   >   
   > As you can see from my ordering, I like "That Hideous Strength" best.   
   > If you take "genre" beyond the publishers and booksellers ones, and   
   > divide things into subgenres as some like to do, then it comes closer   
   > to the genre of Charles Williams's novels, which I also like, but are   
   > definitely fantasy rather than science fiction, and that is the   
   > element that predominates in THS.   
   >   
   > Back to Lewis, the scene at the end of "Out of the Silent Planet" when   
   > Ransom tries to translate Weston's bloviating for the Oyarsa of   
   > Malacandra is a magnificent send-up of colonialism, and Devine, as   
   > I've already mentioned, was probably based on Cecil Rhodes, a   
   > budinessman turned politician, one of whose spiritual descendants is   
   > undoubtedly Donald Trump.   
      
   Nitpicks aside (Lewis himself admitted to having an "expository demon,"   
   and my biggest complaint with THS is that there are a couple crucial   
   points where he should be showing rather than *telling* - but then he   
   does a fine job of showing in his depiction of a man sliding into   
   collaboration with Evil by inches,) I really do enjoy it. Bringing   
   planetary archangels and Arthuriana into a proto-Orwellian sci-fi   
   political thriller is *exactly* my kind of gonzo genre-busting.   
      
   (Thanks for the tip on Williams; will have to check into his work...)   
      
   And it's felt uncomfortably timely, the last 10-15 years; the vintage   
   colonialism skewered in OSP seemed like a distant thing to me as a   
   young reader (though not nearly so much as I learned more of the side   
   of 20th-century history the Powers That Be don't like to talk about,   
   later in life,) but the cooption of institutions by authoritarians and   
   transformation of an everyday setting into a police state was familiar   
   from "Animal Farm," even before I discovered the throughline from THS   
   to "1984," and it's going to feel much, much closer to home the next   
   time I revisit it :/   
      
   > For more on that see here:   
   >    
   >   
   > or here:   
   >    
      
   That's an interesting perspective - I confess that my familiarity with   
   South African history is limited, and I'd noticed but hadn't really   
   processed the reference to Rhodes on my last reading. The bit about a   
   national "haunting" has stuck with me for years (there's something   
   *essential* in there, and one day I'll figure out how to capture it in   
   my own work;) all the moreso now that I'm watching the fractures which   
   latticed my own country since before my grandparents were born turn   
   into seismic rifts...   
      
   (That Chesterton quote is *savage* - and, again, eerily reminiscent.)   
      
   Interesting take on "Prince Caspian," too - that's one I enjoyed as a   
   kid, but didn't fully appreciate 'til I'd grown up enough to understand   
   what the smaller oppressions of confining but "normal" society can look   
   like next to the Big Things the main plot is concerned with - that the   
   liberation from a dreary school and lifeless curriculum isn't just a   
   whimsical aside thrown in "for the kiddies," but part and parcel with   
   the main theme of the book.   
      
   (And it has been *endlessly* amusing, over the years, to hear so many   
   starchy, moralizing parents of "Evangelical" conservative persuasion   
   laud a series that has this liberation from conformity accomplished   
   with Bacchus and his nymphs in the procession...!)   
      
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