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   Steve Hayes to All   
   Re: SF: Book recommendations   
   04 Feb 26 07:05:10   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books, rec.arts.sf.written, alt.books.inklings   
   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 12:20:30 -0800, John Ames    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 03 Feb 2026 07:05:32 +0200   
   >Steve Hayes  wrote:   
   >   
   >> > "That Hideous Strength" is kind of a mess, but an audacious one.   
   >> > His other two "Space Trilogy" books are fine indeed, and all three   
   >> > had a major influence on me as a writer. A fascinating blend of   
   >> > old-school "planetary romance," theology/mysticism, and social   
   >> > commentary.   
   >>   
   >> As you can see from my ordering, I like "That Hideous Strength" best.   
   >> If you take "genre" beyond the publishers and booksellers ones, and   
   >> divide things into subgenres as some like to do, then it comes closer   
   >> to the genre of Charles Williams's novels, which I also like, but are   
   >> definitely fantasy rather than science fiction, and that is the   
   >> element that predominates in THS.   
   >>   
   >> Back to Lewis, the scene at the end of "Out of the Silent Planet" when   
   >> Ransom tries to translate Weston's bloviating for the Oyarsa of   
   >> Malacandra is a magnificent send-up of colonialism, and Devine, as   
   >> I've already mentioned, was probably based on Cecil Rhodes, a   
   >> budinessman turned politician, one of whose spiritual descendants is   
   >> undoubtedly Donald Trump.   
   >   
   >Nitpicks aside (Lewis himself admitted to having an "expository demon,"   
   >and my biggest complaint with THS is that there are a couple crucial   
   >points where he should be showing rather than *telling* - but then he   
   >does a fine job of showing in his depiction of a man sliding into   
   >collaboration with Evil by inches,) I really do enjoy it. Bringing   
   >planetary archangels and Arthuriana into a proto-Orwellian sci-fi   
   >political thriller is *exactly* my kind of gonzo genre-busting.   
   >   
   >(Thanks for the tip on Williams; will have to check into his work...)   
      
   THS is often reffered to as Lewis's attempt at a Williamsish novel.   
      
   Williams's novels are all fantasy set in *this* world, with the   
   irruption of powers from beyond. If you haven't read any of his, I   
   recommend starting with "War in Heaven" or "The Place of the Lion".   
      
      
   >And it's felt uncomfortably timely, the last 10-15 years; the vintage   
   >colonialism skewered in OSP seemed like a distant thing to me as a   
   >young reader (though not nearly so much as I learned more of the side   
   >of 20th-century history the Powers That Be don't like to talk about,   
   >later in life,) but the cooption of institutions by authoritarians and   
   >transformation of an everyday setting into a police state was familiar   
   >from "Animal Farm," even before I discovered the throughline from THS   
   >to "1984," and it's going to feel much, much closer to home the next   
   >time I revisit it :/   
      
   I first encountered Narnia just at the time that South Africa had   
   become a police state, so Captain Maugrim and the statues in the   
   witch's castle made immediate sense to me. I had read the space   
   trilogy and Charles Williams several years before, when a lot of the   
   symbolism went over my head, but rereading them after Narnia made a   
   lot of other things fall into place.   
      
      
   >   
   >> For more on that see here:   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> or here:   
   >>    
   >   
   >That's an interesting perspective - I confess that my familiarity with   
   >South African history is limited, and I'd noticed but hadn't really   
   >processed the reference to Rhodes on my last reading. The bit about a   
   >national "haunting" has stuck with me for years (there's something   
   >*essential* in there, and one day I'll figure out how to capture it in   
   >my own work;) all the moreso now that I'm watching the fractures which   
   >latticed my own country since before my grandparents were born turn   
   >into seismic rifts...   
   >   
   >(That Chesterton quote is *savage* - and, again, eerily reminiscent.)   
   >   
   >Interesting take on "Prince Caspian," too - that's one I enjoyed as a   
   >kid, but didn't fully appreciate 'til I'd grown up enough to understand   
   >what the smaller oppressions of confining but "normal" society can look   
   >like next to the Big Things the main plot is concerned with - that the   
   >liberation from a dreary school and lifeless curriculum isn't just a   
   >whimsical aside thrown in "for the kiddies," but part and parcel with   
   >the main theme of the book.   
   >   
   >(And it has been *endlessly* amusing, over the years, to hear so many   
   >starchy, moralizing parents of "Evangelical" conservative persuasion   
   >laud a series that has this liberation from conformity accomplished   
   >with Bacchus and his nymphs in the procession...!)   
      
   And then there is this:   
      
   Mere Ideology: The politicisation of C.S. Lewis   
      
      
      
      
   --   
   Stephen Hayes, Author of The Year of the Dragon   
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