XPost: alt.religion.wicca, alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.writing   
   XPost: alt.magick   
   From: shez@oldcity.f2s.com   
      
   In article , Peter J Ross   
    writes   
   >On Wednesday 02 March, Dale Houstman wrote in rec.arts.poems:   
   >   
   >> Shez wrote:   
   >>> In article <4225D64F.3020900@skypoint.com>, Dale Houstman   
   >>>  writes   
   >>>   
   >>>>Pip wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>"Dale Houstman"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:42232390.4070905@skypoint.com...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>Rhyanon wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Ooh, grammar lames, a sign of having no wit with which to do battle.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Ooh, magick, a sign of having no ability to deal with the world as it is.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Well, you forget that the "world" is not the same as it was only 50 years   
   >>>>>ago.  Much less 300 years ago.  And the world that you tidily inhabit now,   
   >>>>>will not be the same one 50 years from now, much less 300 years from now.   
   >>>>>So expand your thinking.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Pip   
   >>>>   
   >>>>We're talking to people who still believe in "magick" and you think that   
   >>>>I'm the one who has to "expand" my thinking?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Hilarious...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>dmh   
   >>>   
   >>> The world is still full of people who still beleive in Jehovah and   
   >>> Christ.. Now if you want a fairy tale and mythology....:)   
   >   
   >> Of course, but belief in those things is just as antiquated and silly   
   >> (to my mind) as a belief in "magick."   
   >   
   >But it has the reassuring appeal of tradition, and a knowledge of   
   >Jehovah and Christ as later interpreted is necessary in order to   
   >understand more than a thousand years of literature and art. It wasn't   
   >always antiquated and silly.   
   >   
   >> And - at any rate - the Bible -for   
   >> all its obvious faults and flaws - is a rough (if borrowed and often   
   >> self-contradictory) sort of philosophy with very real effects in the   
   >> world,   
   >   
   >There are hints of borrowed philosophy in parts of the Old Testament,   
   >but I'd say that 90% of it is uncontaminated by any kind of   
   >speculative thought. The "philosophy" comes from later interpreters.   
   >Mostly it's a fascinating jumble of legends, poems and chronicles, of   
   >varying literary quality, and if it weren't so gloriously   
   >self-contradictory half the best bits would have been left out.   
   >   
   >> and not a few people wearing robes and trying to make the trees   
   >> talk. "Magick" - as a movement - has nothing to show for its existence   
   >> but a few moon-worhippers and a New Age crystal shoppe at the mall.   
   >   
   >Of course, it also provides a hope of having sex even if you're   
   >repulsive to all non-deluded people.   
      
      
   Well that's the best reason I have seen in a long time for worshiping   
   the moon or a tree.. Or trawling the New age shops for crystals...   
   everything comes down to sex in the end...;)   
   Good reply.   
   >   
   >PJR :-)   
      
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