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   From: shez@oldcity.f2s.com   
      
   In article , Josh Hill   
    writes   
   >On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 23:47:01 GMT, "Pip"  wrote:   
   >   
   >>Depends on what you think magic is.  Magic with a K is not what I'm talking   
   >>about....all sorts of people believe things that are accepted in many   
   >>segments of the normal community.  How about ESP?  How about the way that   
   >>the so called paranormal is being investigated?   
   >>If you split up topics that others are calling magick, you will see that you   
   >>can talk about them.  If you want to talk about them, you have to ask   
   >>specific and detailed questions.   
   >>   
   >>Let me ask you an off the cuff question, if I may...do you believe in god?   
   >>If you do, why do you?  Its one of those point of view questions that cannot   
   >>be proved to be true in any manner.  You have to make these kinds of   
   >>allowances when you are talking to people who do not share your world view.   
   >>   
   >>Because you see, what you think of as mainstream really is a world view.   
   >>You're immersed in your own world view.   
   >>   
   >>Do you believe that earth has been visited by extra terrestrial   
   >>intelligences?  How about the possibility of it?  Would it surprise you to   
   >>know that many people who believe in magick, don't believe in the   
   >>possibility of alien visitation?  Its not part of their world view.   
   >>   
   >>Would it surprise you to know that many theories about ancient history   
   >>cannot be proved?  Yet they are currently accepted by most people as fact.   
   >>Did you know that string theory can't be proved?  Do you feel that string   
   >>theory is a valuable tool in understanding our physical universe?  If you   
   >>do, why do you?   
   >>   
   >>I'm not heckling you, just making a point.  You need to expand your world.   
   >   
   >Different world views, no doubt, but the difference between string   
   >theory and magic is like the difference between the New York   
   >Philharmonic and a kid playing chopsticks.   
      
   Why.. Because you beleive in string theory and not in magick..   
    I think most people would find your theory little lacking :)   
   >   
   >"Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate" -- entities should not   
   >be multiplied unnecessarily. Occam's little commandment is itself an   
   >excellent example of the power of good thought. Good thought is like a   
   >sleek locomotive that draws one after it at high speed; bad thought   
   >rattles, flaps its wings, blows off steam -- and falls on its nose.   
      
   Which is which I wonder, and how do you tell the difference, I have   
   noticed that people generally think their thoughts are the good sort and   
   everyone else's are the bad ones.. Somehow that doesn't quite make   
   sense, but its never the less true.   
      
   Do any of you actually enjoy your lives, are you having fun, will you   
   look back in fifty years or so and say Hey its been a great life... I   
   did most of the things I wanted to do, I had some bad times, but the   
   good times far outweighed them.   
   If you cant look back on your life from any age and say its fun, its   
   been really interesting and enjoyable then you need to make some major   
   changes in the way you live and look at life. Because sure as eggs is   
   eggs your going to look back on nothing but grief and a bad smell.   
   If you die tomorrow, will you be able to say, its been good, I have   
   learned some things, I have experienced some things, I have loved and   
   laughed and danced.. And it was worth it.   
   If not why not.   
      
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