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   Pip to Pertial   
   Re: Practical magick.   
   03 Mar 05 01:33:41   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.wicca, alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.magick   
   From: Aetyr@nc.rr.com   
      
   "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   news:4225f27a$1_2@127.0.0.1...   
   >   
   > >> for me Magick   
   > >> is normal it is not outside of my experience. I know a great many   
   people   
   > >> want to use magick or want to beleive in it, but its a state of mind,   
   > >> not a state of belief.   
   > >   
   > > Isn't a belief a state of mind?   
   >   
   > Not to me.   
   >   
   > The "state of your mind" is a continuous fluid process that   
   > can only be dammed up by belief. (which is a static, codification   
   > attempt at some truth)   
   >   
   > The mind, at its best, can perceive reality with the most clarity   
   > when belief is suspended, and the perception is as direct   
   > as possible.   
      
   Words create the world as we see it.  We live in a sea of language.  The   
   more described and defined a thing is, the easier it is to communicate it,   
   and to receive the communications of others concerning it.  Words create   
   belief everyday.   
   Pip   
      
      
      
   >   
   > What people call "belief" seems to have the effect of selecting   
   > some perceptions and rejecting others in a way that leads to   
   > distortion, IMO.   
   >   
   > Not that it matters, since belief is inevitable to the human   
   > condition, and most people don't care as long as   
   > Jesus loves them.  :)   
   >   
   >   
   > > It ca be demonstrated consistently in from of skeptics as well as   
   believers,   
   > > under controlled conditions that effectively rule out fraud or illusion.   
   > > Can your magick do that?   
   >   
   > I bet I would have heard about it.   
   > Spoon bending is so 20th century.   
   >   
   > :)   
   >   
   >   
   > Cheers,   
   >   
   > P   
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