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From: jani@dsl.pipex.com
"Shez" wrote in message
news:lqGVHOCcW3JCFwMP@oldcity.f2s.com...
> In article <38p9qfF5qooe5U1@individual.net>, Jani
> writes
>>
>>"Pertial" wrote in message
>>news:42275aa4$1_1@127.0.0.1...
>>>
>>> "Jani" wrote in message
>>> news:38p0cpF5pgailU1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Pertial" wrote in message
>>>> news:42274108$1_2@127.0.0.1...
>>
>>>>> People who are shakey in what they term their "beliefs"
>>>>> (and I've never met anyone that wasn't shakey, since
>>>>> all the myths are fiction) can frequently overcompensate
>>>>> by defending them obsessively.
>>>>
>>>> Oh gawds yes. You should look in on some of the xtian groups. Satan's
>>>> hiding under every rock, dontchaknow.
>>>
>>> I don't even read much here. :)
>>> At this point, this thread is about it...
>>
>>I thought you were a r.a.p. reg? Of course, everyone passes through arw
>>sooner or later, it's like bloody Trafalgar Square in that respect :)
>>
>>
>>>>> God concepts are particularly prone to obsession, but
>>>>> obsession doesn't convert the myth into truth, and reality
>>>>> sits there chuckling at the gyrations. (poetic tangent)
>>>>
>>>> Well, Rhy's not a godder, and neither am I. But I am interested in
>>>> religion as a social phenomenon. Watching the progression of Wicca, in
>>>> a
>>>> mere fifty years or so, is a bit like watching that speeded-up film of
>>>> a
>>>> mouse corpse decaying.
>>>>
>>>> (Hmm, perhaps that wasn't the pleasantest example I could have picked
>>>> ... )
>>>
>>> When it comes to religion I'm sure I would have to invent one
>>> from scratch... (using only ordinary kitchen utensils, of course :)
>>>
>>> But perhaps the wicca/magick/pagan groups could help. Heh...
>>
>>Oh, we're quite good on the history of invented religions, indeed. And
>>apocryphal tales thereof ... did you know that Gardner and Crowley cooked
>>up
>>Wicca so they could whip naked girls without getting arrested? Or that the
>>Church of All Worlds and Scientology were both the result of a bet between
>>Heinlein and LRH as to who could invent a better religion? :)
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some *teachings* worth learning, and perhaps
>>>>> many are taught in your various practices.
>>>>
>>>> From what I know of various pagan trads, yes, there are. Hell of lot of
>>>> outright crap as well, of course.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> None of our Usenet banter affects it, eh?
>>>>
>>>> Heh, one would have to be pretty insecure, if it did :) But then I'm
>>>> not
>>>> defending a myth, and I don't have any obsessions ...
>>>
>>> Not even chocolate? :)
>>
>>Oh, don't. My dislike of chocolate is a constant source of embarrassment
>>to
>>my pagan friends. And I made a real effort to substitute chocolate when I
>>quit smoking, as well. Ended up giving away a block of Green & Black's
>>Maya
>>Gold to the neighbourhood children, cos it was just .. ugh....
>>
>>Jani
>>
>
> Blasphemy.... you could have sent it to me you know.. Chocolate is
> wasted on the young :)
Oh, I dunno, Maya Gold has chili spices in it, I think. A learning
experience for the littl'uns :-)
Jani
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jani
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> P
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Pertial" wrote in message
>>>>>> news:42271f76$1_1@127.0.0.1...
>>>>>>> Pizza-boi, to me, is a generic term for someone stupid
>>>>>>> that comes out with jealous, crude vulgarity on a regular basis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a symbol of stupidity originally forged by Will Dockery,
>>>>>>> I guess, not here that long to be sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jani" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:38ok7oF5pg2d9U1@individual.net...
>>>>>>>> Why are you calling Rhy a boy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jani
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Pertial" wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:422718dd$1_2@127.0.0.1...
>>>>>>>>> Hey pizza-boi!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is charming that you think you are powerful and have
>>>>>>>>> big points to make on Usenet. Did mommy teach you
>>>>>>>>> how to use a newsreader?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're so cute when you wend your Will. Ha!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hilarious... Do it again. Do it again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Rhyanon" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:112e3kfr0o0fc17@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Another point worth making [not that I expect you to have the
>>>>>>>>>> cerebral wherewithal to grasp it] is that witches don't put their
>>>>>>>>>> names forward. We prefer to be anonymous; a witch wends their
>>>>>>>>>> Will
>>>>>>>>>> not for acclaim and glory, but for purposes all one's own.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Pertial" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4225e7cc$1_1@127.0.0.1...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Pip" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:n7kVd.13119$ha.769013@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dale Houstman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:42232390.4070905@skypoint.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhyanon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ooh, grammar lames, a sign of having no wit with which to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > battle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ooh, magick, a sign of having no ability to deal with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you forget that the "world" is not the same as it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago. Much less 300 years ago. And the world that you tidily
>>>>>>>>>>>> inhabit now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> will not be the same one 50 years from now, much less 300 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> from now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So expand your thinking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Name one magician whose magic is responsible for ANY
>>>>>>>>>>> change in the world at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Embarassing, isn't it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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