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   From: shez@oldcity.f2s.com   
      
   In article <38pc9hF5qvet1U1@individual.net>, Jani    
   writes   
   >   
   >"Shez"  wrote in message   
   >news:lqGVHOCcW3JCFwMP@oldcity.f2s.com...   
   >> In article <38p9qfF5qooe5U1@individual.net>, Jani    
   >> writes   
   >>>   
   >>>"Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:42275aa4$1_1@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> "Jani"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:38p0cpF5pgailU1@individual.net...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:42274108$1_2@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> People who are shakey in what they term their "beliefs"   
   >>>>>> (and I've never met anyone that wasn't shakey, since   
   >>>>>> all the myths are fiction) can frequently overcompensate   
   >>>>>> by defending them obsessively.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Oh gawds yes. You should look in on some of the xtian groups. Satan's   
   >>>>> hiding under every rock, dontchaknow.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I don't even read much here.  :)   
   >>>> At this point, this thread is about it...   
   >>>   
   >>>I thought you were a r.a.p. reg? Of course, everyone passes through arw   
   >>>sooner or later, it's like bloody Trafalgar Square in that respect :)   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> God concepts are particularly prone to obsession, but   
   >>>>>> obsession doesn't convert the myth into truth, and reality   
   >>>>>> sits there chuckling at the gyrations. (poetic tangent)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Well, Rhy's not a godder, and neither am I. But I am interested in   
   >>>>> religion as a social phenomenon. Watching the progression of Wicca, in   
   >>>>> a   
   >>>>> mere fifty years or so, is a bit like watching that speeded-up film of   
   >>>>> a   
   >>>>> mouse corpse decaying.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> (Hmm, perhaps that wasn't the pleasantest example I could have picked   
   >>>>> ... )   
   >>>>   
   >>>> When it comes to religion I'm sure I would have to invent one   
   >>>> from scratch... (using only ordinary kitchen utensils, of course :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But perhaps the wicca/magick/pagan groups could help.  Heh...   
   >>>   
   >>>Oh, we're quite good on the history of invented religions, indeed. And   
   >>>apocryphal tales thereof ... did you know that Gardner and Crowley cooked   
   >>>up   
   >>>Wicca so they could whip naked girls without getting arrested? Or that the   
   >>>Church of All Worlds and Scientology were both the result of a bet between   
   >>>Heinlein and LRH as to who could invent a better religion? :)   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> There are some *teachings* worth learning, and perhaps   
   >>>>>> many are taught in your various practices.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> From what I know of various pagan trads, yes, there are. Hell of lot of   
   >>>>> outright crap as well, of course.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> None of our Usenet banter affects it, eh?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Heh, one would have to be pretty insecure, if it did :) But then I'm   
   >>>>> not   
   >>>>> defending a myth, and I don't have any obsessions ...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Not even chocolate?  :)   
   >>>   
   >>>Oh, don't. My dislike of chocolate is a constant source of embarrassment   
   >>>to   
   >>>my pagan friends. And I made a real effort to substitute chocolate when I   
   >>>quit smoking, as well. Ended up giving away a block of Green & Black's   
   >>>Maya   
   >>>Gold to the neighbourhood children, cos it was just .. ugh....   
   >>>   
   >>>Jani   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Blasphemy.... you could have sent it to me you know.. Chocolate is   
   >> wasted on the young :)   
   >   
   >Oh, I dunno, Maya Gold has chili spices in it, I think. A learning   
   >experience for the littl'uns :-)   
   >   
   >Jani   
      
   Nope that's you off my Solstice card list, and I have taken you out of   
   my will to... the garden gnome is going to my cousin now.... That will   
   teach you...   
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   >>>> P   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Jani   
   >>>>>   
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   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> P   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:42271f76$1_1@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>>>>> Pizza-boi, to me, is a generic term for someone stupid   
   >>>>>>>> that comes out with jealous, crude vulgarity on a regular basis.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It is a symbol of stupidity originally forged by Will Dockery,   
   >>>>>>>> I guess, not here that long to be sure.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> P   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> "Jani"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>> news:38ok7oF5pg2d9U1@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>>> Why are you calling Rhy a boy?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Jani   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>> news:422718dd$1_2@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>>>>>>> Hey pizza-boi!   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It is charming that you think you are powerful and have   
   >>>>>>>>>> big points to make on Usenet. Did mommy teach you   
   >>>>>>>>>> how to use a newsreader?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You're so cute when you wend your Will.  Ha!   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Hilarious... Do it again. Do it again.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> :)   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> P   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> "Rhyanon"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>> news:112e3kfr0o0fc17@corp.supernews.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Another point worth making [not that I expect you to have the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> cerebral wherewithal to grasp it] is that witches don't put their   
   >>>>>>>>>>> names forward. We prefer to be anonymous; a witch wends their   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Will   
   >>>>>>>>>>> not for acclaim and glory, but for purposes all one's own.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:4225e7cc$1_1@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> "Pip"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:n7kVd.13119$ha.769013@twister.southeast.rr.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dale Houstman"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:42232390.4070905@skypoint.com...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhyanon wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Ooh, grammar lames, a sign of having no wit with which to do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > battle.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ooh, magick, a sign of having no ability to deal with the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> world   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, you forget that the "world" is not the same as it was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> only   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 years   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> ago.  Much less 300 years ago.  And the world that you tidily   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> inhabit now,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> will not be the same one 50 years from now, much less 300 years   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> from now.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> So expand your thinking.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, but:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Name one magician whose magic is responsible for ANY   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> change in the world at all.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Embarassing, isn't it?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> P   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
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