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   Jani to Shez   
   Re: "Practical magick" is a contradictio   
   03 Mar 05 21:44:17   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.wicca, alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.writing   
   XPost: alt.magick   
   From: jani@dsl.pipex.com   
      
   "Shez"  wrote in message   
   news:a6yaDHDN73JCFwr+@oldcity.f2s.com...   
   > In article <38pc9hF5qvet1U1@individual.net>, Jani    
   > writes   
   >>   
   >>"Shez"  wrote in message   
   >>news:lqGVHOCcW3JCFwMP@oldcity.f2s.com...   
   >>> In article <38p9qfF5qooe5U1@individual.net>, Jani    
   >>> writes   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>news:42275aa4$1_1@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Jani"  wrote in message   
   >>>>> news:38p0cpF5pgailU1@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:42274108$1_2@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> People who are shakey in what they term their "beliefs"   
   >>>>>>> (and I've never met anyone that wasn't shakey, since   
   >>>>>>> all the myths are fiction) can frequently overcompensate   
   >>>>>>> by defending them obsessively.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Oh gawds yes. You should look in on some of the xtian groups. Satan's   
   >>>>>> hiding under every rock, dontchaknow.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I don't even read much here.  :)   
   >>>>> At this point, this thread is about it...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>I thought you were a r.a.p. reg? Of course, everyone passes through arw   
   >>>>sooner or later, it's like bloody Trafalgar Square in that respect :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> God concepts are particularly prone to obsession, but   
   >>>>>>> obsession doesn't convert the myth into truth, and reality   
   >>>>>>> sits there chuckling at the gyrations. (poetic tangent)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Well, Rhy's not a godder, and neither am I. But I am interested in   
   >>>>>> religion as a social phenomenon. Watching the progression of Wicca,   
   >>>>>> in   
   >>>>>> a   
   >>>>>> mere fifty years or so, is a bit like watching that speeded-up film   
   >>>>>> of   
   >>>>>> a   
   >>>>>> mouse corpse decaying.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> (Hmm, perhaps that wasn't the pleasantest example I could have picked   
   >>>>>> ... )   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When it comes to religion I'm sure I would have to invent one   
   >>>>> from scratch... (using only ordinary kitchen utensils, of course :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But perhaps the wicca/magick/pagan groups could help.  Heh...   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Oh, we're quite good on the history of invented religions, indeed. And   
   >>>>apocryphal tales thereof ... did you know that Gardner and Crowley   
   >>>>cooked   
   >>>>up   
   >>>>Wicca so they could whip naked girls without getting arrested? Or that   
   >>>>the   
   >>>>Church of All Worlds and Scientology were both the result of a bet   
   >>>>between   
   >>>>Heinlein and LRH as to who could invent a better religion? :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There are some *teachings* worth learning, and perhaps   
   >>>>>>> many are taught in your various practices.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> From what I know of various pagan trads, yes, there are. Hell of lot   
   >>>>>> of   
   >>>>>> outright crap as well, of course.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> None of our Usenet banter affects it, eh?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Heh, one would have to be pretty insecure, if it did :) But then I'm   
   >>>>>> not   
   >>>>>> defending a myth, and I don't have any obsessions ...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Not even chocolate?  :)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Oh, don't. My dislike of chocolate is a constant source of embarrassment   
   >>>>to   
   >>>>my pagan friends. And I made a real effort to substitute chocolate when   
   >>>>I   
   >>>>quit smoking, as well. Ended up giving away a block of Green & Black's   
   >>>>Maya   
   >>>>Gold to the neighbourhood children, cos it was just .. ugh....   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Jani   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Blasphemy.... you could have sent it to me you know.. Chocolate is   
   >>> wasted on the young :)   
   >>   
   >>Oh, I dunno, Maya Gold has chili spices in it, I think. A learning   
   >>experience for the littl'uns :-)   
   >>   
   >>Jani   
   >   
   > Nope that's you off my Solstice card list, and I have taken you out of   
   > my will to... the garden gnome is going to my cousin now.... That will   
   > teach you...   
      
   I didn't want the gnome, I had my eye on the dragon ;)   
      
   Jani   
      
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