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   From: shez@oldcity.f2s.com   
      
   In article <38pepiF5qvchkU1@individual.net>, Jani    
   writes   
   >   
   >"Shez"  wrote in message   
   >news:a6yaDHDN73JCFwr+@oldcity.f2s.com...   
   >> In article <38pc9hF5qvet1U1@individual.net>, Jani    
   >> writes   
   >>>   
   >>>"Shez"  wrote in message   
   >>>news:lqGVHOCcW3JCFwMP@oldcity.f2s.com...   
   >>>> In article <38p9qfF5qooe5U1@individual.net>, Jani    
   >>>> writes   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>"Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>news:42275aa4$1_1@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "Jani"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:38p0cpF5pgailU1@individual.net...   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> "Pertial"  wrote in message   
   >>>>>>> news:42274108$1_2@127.0.0.1...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> People who are shakey in what they term their "beliefs"   
   >>>>>>>> (and I've never met anyone that wasn't shakey, since   
   >>>>>>>> all the myths are fiction) can frequently overcompensate   
   >>>>>>>> by defending them obsessively.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Oh gawds yes. You should look in on some of the xtian groups. Satan's   
   >>>>>>> hiding under every rock, dontchaknow.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I don't even read much here.  :)   
   >>>>>> At this point, this thread is about it...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>I thought you were a r.a.p. reg? Of course, everyone passes through arw   
   >>>>>sooner or later, it's like bloody Trafalgar Square in that respect :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> God concepts are particularly prone to obsession, but   
   >>>>>>>> obsession doesn't convert the myth into truth, and reality   
   >>>>>>>> sits there chuckling at the gyrations. (poetic tangent)   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Well, Rhy's not a godder, and neither am I. But I am interested in   
   >>>>>>> religion as a social phenomenon. Watching the progression of Wicca,   
   >>>>>>> in   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> mere fifty years or so, is a bit like watching that speeded-up film   
   >>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>> a   
   >>>>>>> mouse corpse decaying.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> (Hmm, perhaps that wasn't the pleasantest example I could have picked   
   >>>>>>> ... )   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> When it comes to religion I'm sure I would have to invent one   
   >>>>>> from scratch... (using only ordinary kitchen utensils, of course :)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But perhaps the wicca/magick/pagan groups could help.  Heh...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Oh, we're quite good on the history of invented religions, indeed. And   
   >>>>>apocryphal tales thereof ... did you know that Gardner and Crowley   
   >>>>>cooked   
   >>>>>up   
   >>>>>Wicca so they could whip naked girls without getting arrested? Or that   
   >>>>>the   
   >>>>>Church of All Worlds and Scientology were both the result of a bet   
   >>>>>between   
   >>>>>Heinlein and LRH as to who could invent a better religion? :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> There are some *teachings* worth learning, and perhaps   
   >>>>>>>> many are taught in your various practices.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> From what I know of various pagan trads, yes, there are. Hell of lot   
   >>>>>>> of   
   >>>>>>> outright crap as well, of course.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> None of our Usenet banter affects it, eh?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Heh, one would have to be pretty insecure, if it did :) But then I'm   
   >>>>>>> not   
   >>>>>>> defending a myth, and I don't have any obsessions ...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not even chocolate?  :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Oh, don't. My dislike of chocolate is a constant source of embarrassment   
   >>>>>to   
   >>>>>my pagan friends. And I made a real effort to substitute chocolate when   
   >>>>>I   
   >>>>>quit smoking, as well. Ended up giving away a block of Green & Black's   
   >>>>>Maya   
   >>>>>Gold to the neighbourhood children, cos it was just .. ugh....   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Jani   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Blasphemy.... you could have sent it to me you know.. Chocolate is   
   >>>> wasted on the young :)   
   >>>   
   >>>Oh, I dunno, Maya Gold has chili spices in it, I think. A learning   
   >>>experience for the littl'uns :-)   
   >>>   
   >>>Jani   
   >>   
   >> Nope that's you off my Solstice card list, and I have taken you out of   
   >> my will to... the garden gnome is going to my cousin now.... That will   
   >> teach you...   
   >   
   >I didn't want the gnome, I had my eye on the dragon ;)   
   >   
   >Jani   
   >   
   >   
   You would have to fight off a lot of people for that one... including my   
   daughter who has threatened to bury me upside down with my head in a   
   puddle if I don't leave it to her... ;)   
      
   I did warm her if she buried me that I would probably sprout and grow   
   big vicious thorns, but she seems to be willing to chance that.   
      
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