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   From: shez@oldcity.f2s.com   
      
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   Arlon Staywell  writes   
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   >"Aunty Kreist"  wrote   
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   >> "Pertial"  wrote   
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   >>> "Rhyanon"  wrote   
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   >>>> Words aren't necessary for "spells". which is a misnomer in itself. I   
   >>>> don't have the patience to dumb down the basics for you   
   >>> > nimrods.   
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   >>> Could you try?   
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   >>> What does the "verbal" mind do during the spell? Nothing?   
   >>> Focus in the verbal mind doesn't matter?  Really?   
   >>> Is it all visual?   
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   >>> Can you give an example of a non-verbal spell?   
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   >>> P   
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   >> Imagery. Visualization. Say, for instance, you have severe arthritis in   
   >> your   
   >> legs. You can visualize blue colored, healing energy enveloping your legs.   
   >> You visualize the bones inside, and the swelling slowly receding. You   
   >> visualize your body repairing itself. This is very dumbed down and simple,   
   >> but it explains it matter of factly.   
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   >     You are still using words and symbols.  You made up a new symbol, "blue   
   >colored, healing energy," but it is just another symbol like a cross or the   
   >word, "cross."  The association is a new one, blue glow = heal, but the   
   >principle is the same.  The mind holds an image, a symbol, a word, but it is   
   >"mind stuff," not real.  Even if real things, electric blue lights for   
   >example, are used to enhance the mental images, essentially you are still   
   >working with a symbol; a new, fancy word that is supposed to mean "heal."   
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   >            Arlon   
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   The mind works with symbols, but it doesn't necessarily need words... if   
   you say blue it conjures up an image of blue sky or sea, or something   
   similar if your visualising blue, you don't say or need to verbalise the   
   symbol.. Its their. The cross itself is a lot older than Christianity,   
   their are many symbols in human history that mean something to people...   
   Dragons for instance are myth that has a huge spread of belief in many   
   countries.   
   Ghosts are a concept understood everywhere in the world.   
   Your assuming that if you train your mind in visualisation techniques   
   that your verbalising, in fact your not, its like using shorthand....   
   its a lot faster and a lot more compressed than verbal instructions   
   could be.   
   One of the easiest and simplest training tools for anyone who wants to   
   learn visualisation techniques is to put a candle in front of them and   
   get them to build up an image of that candle flame in their minds, to   
   practice it until they are able to recreate the flame in every detail...   
   it take a lot of practice to do that beleive me and a long time, you   
   also learn that the human mind can not concentrate on one thing for very   
   long, only for a few moments so you learn to drop the image and recreate   
   it again many times, Those who are good at Yoga or meditation have   
   learned a very simple technique for dropping an image or visualisation   
   then taking it up again almost in the blink of an eye. Or faster. To   
   keep the concentration on that object or idea going for as long as they   
   need to. Its a simple introduction to advanced trance techniques and   
   even looking at or seeing a candle flame in your mind will eventually   
   trigger the trance state almost instantly with little or no preparation   
   or concentration involved.   
   Teaching people these skills is a lot easier when they are young and   
   don't have the mental shutter we adults put up that allow us to beleive   
   that something unusual or out of the ordinary is possible.   
   As an adult you have to learn to think in a new way, and that is   
   difficult both for the teacher and the student but its not impossible.   
   It just take a lot longer.....   
      
   Most of these techniques are very simple, but as humans we always seem   
   to want to complicate things and add layers or ritual, dogma, tools, and   
   a lot of unnecessary extras..   
   I have taught these techniques very successfully but I have also had to   
   learn how to make it simple and yet easy to understand and to   
   incorporate these very simple techniques into an adult brain. That was a   
   marathon task beleive me.   
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