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   From: shez@oldcity.f2s.com   
      
   In article <1109892719.260885.127930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Will   
   Dockery  writes   
   >   
   >Shez wrote:   
   >> In article <1109886329.009758.33340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,   
   >Will   
   >> Dockery  writes   
   >> >   
   >> >Shez wrote:   
   >> >> In article , Will   
   >Dockery   
   >> >>  writes   
   >> >> >Shez wrote:   
   >> >> >> Poetry is not word magick... magick is in the mind and the   
   >will.   
   >> >You   
   >> >> >> certainly don't need bad poetry to use magick... only a total   
   >> >loser   
   >> >> >> would imagine that you can use poetry to create magick... get a   
   >> >life   
   >> >> >> man.  Or did you imagine that your poetry is so overwhelmingly   
   >> >good   
   >> >> >that   
   >> >> >> it might actually make you socially acceptable.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >That's not my agenda, babe.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >Allow me to quote the mantra of the true poet, not the academic   
   >> >> >wannabes that you slurp up to, babe.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >Arthur Rimbaud: on the poet as visionary   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >A poet makes himself a visionary through a long, boundless, and   
   >> >> >systematized disorganization of all the senses. All forms of   
   >love,   
   >> >of   
   >> >> >suffering, of madness; he searches himself, he exhausts within   
   >> >himself   
   >> >> >all poisons, and preserves their quintessences. Unspeakable   
   >torment,   
   >> >> >where he will need the greatest faith, a superhuman strength,   
   >where   
   >> >he   
   >> >> >becomes among all men the great invalid, the great criminal, the   
   >> >great   
   >> >> >accurses - and the Supreme Scientist! For he attains the unknown!   
   >> >> >Because he has cultivated his soul, already rich, more than   
   >anyone!   
   >> >He   
   >> >> >attains the unknown, and if, demented, he finally loses the   
   >> >> >understanding of his visions, he will at least have seen them! So   
   >> >what   
   >> >> >if he is destroyed in his ecstatic flight through things unheard   
   >of,   
   >> >> >unnameable: other horrible workers will come; they will begin at   
   >the   
   >> >> >horizons where the first one has fallen!   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Could have been written for Byron...he loved to suffer to, and   
   >made   
   >> >an   
   >> >> art form of it. Personally I am a dam sight to practical to go   
   >> >through   
   >> >> life boring the rest of the world with my suffering or my ecstatic   
   >> >> flights..   
   >> >> We can all touch the stars occasionally and we all at times feel   
   >> >great   
   >> >> grief and sadness.. Its not just poets who suffer the extremes of   
   >> >> despair and ecstasy its just the rest of us don't go around   
   >talking   
   >> >> endlessly about our feelings our suffering and our despair.. Maybe   
   >> >> because we have realised its part of being human.. :)   
   >> >   
   >> >Well said, Shez, and better said than any of the baker's dozen   
   >> >*experts* of the Kabol that have whined endlessly about how much   
   >> >they've *suffered*.   
   >>   
   >> Life is to much fun to go around whinging all the time. I get bored   
   >very   
   >> quickly with people who live lives of constant drama. They are the   
   >stars   
   >> of there own show, and the rest of us appear to be stand in parts   
   >> only...   
   >> I know the worlds a stage ect.. But the Prima donnas really get my   
   >goat   
   >> some times.. :)   
   >   
   >They wind up biting their own tails, often as not.   
      
   I wish it were more often.. My Mum was a bit of a drama Queen and I can   
   spot them a mile away :)   
   Its the ones who stop you in the street and tell you all about their   
   latest tragedy, how cruel their friends and relatives are, how their   
   lives are a constant round of pain and torment.   
      
   Mostly they are bored, don't know what to do with themselves and make up   
   these incredible romances to keep them from going mad from the tedium of   
   their lives...   
   What the really need is half a dozen kids, or a really hard physical   
   job, or even a hobby... but you can never get them to beleive that they   
   are not having tragic lives they are just bored out of their skulls...   
   and they are boring me out of my skull.   
      
   >> >I'll state flat out, though as John Lennon, one of the finest poets   
   >> >your UK has produced, proclaimed "genius is pain", frankly, the   
   >bottom   
   >> >line is:   
   >>   
   >> Well he did have a lot of fun, and he had a very odd sense of humour   
   >I   
   >> wouldnt be suprised if he was pulling peoples legs with that one.   
   >   
   >Absolutely. And "fuck 'em if they can't take the joke."!   
      
   Sounds like John, he was never one to stand on ceremony.   
   >   
   >> >If it wasn't *fun*, it wouldn't be worth doing.   
   >> To right.. Life should be fun, it should be an adventure, age shall   
   >not   
   >> wither me... The nice thing is if you enjoy life if you look for the   
   >> adventure the fun, and you like people, then you never get old   
   >anyway..   
   >> Only the outside shell gets old. The inside is forever looking   
   >forward   
   >> to the next adventure.   
   >> I occasionally remind myself I am old and disabled and then think sod   
   >it   
   >> so what... I want to do that.... the last time it was drive a big   
   >steam   
   >> roller last year, and this year it will be Egypt...   
   >   
   >Exactly. I hear echoes of my favorite local witch Cassonya... never too   
   >old to boogie, wobble, and if so, Astral Projection and Dreamtime can   
   >take you to Istanbul and back in less than ten minutes.   
      
   Well I cant boogie these days, and music is a bit of a problem, but I   
   can and do get involved in life, in books, in research talk to friends   
   chat on line, annoy my hubby bless him.. And generally hope that I can   
   live long enough to see some of the great technical breakthroughs that   
   are begining to happen.. I want to have a go in a total immersion   
   virtual reality game. I want to go into space, I am learning Arabic   
   studying Islam and Egypt modern and ancient. I need a nine day week..   
   And a 30 hour day... how can you get bored these days, with all the   
   stuff that is going on and all the adventures you can have.   
   >   
   >Those who don't tap their magickal God given talents are the losers,   
   >and ya can't make a horse get it's oats.   
      
   Life is funny, so are people and so many of them take life and   
   themselves so seriously...   
   >   
   >> I worry the life out of my children,.. But they are learning that Mum   
   >> isn't going to be a nice quiet little lady in a wheelchair who knits,   
   >> she is more likely to run away on the back of a Harley   
   >Davidson....they   
   >> are far more staid and respectable than I am...:)   
   >   
   >Let it, roll, baby, roll.   
      
   Now come on what's your next adventure going to be, what are you doing   
   with your life, and what cant you wait to see happen, holidays in space.   
   Virtual reality travel, For me the Internet is amazing, it still give me   
   a kick to look up something I want to study and research without a long   
   trek to a library, or to a museum...   
   I am even learning some Arabic on line... as well as wondering around   
   with a set of headphones and talking to myself in Arabic... now and   
   again I remember to answer in English, or say Thanks instead of shokran   
   >   
   >---   
   >"Zorro's Medicine Show" [Will Dockery]   
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