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   HarryLime to George J. Dance   
   Re: The Return of Michael Monkey (2/2)   
   15 Jan 25 15:29:42   
   
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   was when you challenged him to write a triolet and to pit it against one   
   of yours.   
      
   Happy?   
      
   As to your claim that I wouldn't call Jim's writing "poetry," you are   
   intentionally falsifying my meaning by referring to my words out of   
   context (unfortunately this is another of your standard practices).   
      
   In your above statement, you make it appear as if I had been making a   
   value judgment regarding Jim's work.  Such was not the case.  I have   
   always defined "poetry" as "a literary form comprising rhymed-metered   
   verse."  The majority of Jim's works do not use rhyme or meter, so they   
   fall outside of my definition of poetry.  They are, however, excellent   
   literary works -- and works which contemporary critics would define as   
   "Modern Poetry."   
      
   And, FYI, Jim's work is still receiving compliments from other Modern   
   poets on The Official AAPC FB page.   
      
   I am a fan of Jim's writing.  I just consider it to be extremely well   
   written prose.   
      
      
   >> There was a reason why PJR referred to you and your allies as "Team   
   >> Dunce."   
   >   
   > The same reason, I suspect, that you refer to Will and his alleged   
   > allies as "Team Donkey". You do like to copy that old troll, Piggy Ross.   
      
   You're mistaken, George.  Mr. Ross is an intelligent individual, and as   
   such, was able to see through your "gamesmanship."  It took me a while   
   to understand what was going on because Mr. Ross appeared to be the   
   aggressor in your ongoing flame war.   
      
   Once I discovered that your Donkey had driven off all of the old AAPC   
   members (exactly as he was driving off all of the, then, current ones),   
   the situation became clear.   
      
   Since I am stating the truth, just as Mr. Ross had, you claim that I am   
   copying him.  But anyone who sees you for what you are, would come to   
   the same conclusions.   
      
      
   >> You view AAPC as "teams," and will support your untalented   
   >> teammates, while attacking your betters.   
   >   
   > "Attacking your betters" sounds like you're copying Piggy Ross again.   
   > But how was that supposed to be my view, when it was Piggy who made up   
   > the term?   
      
   No, George.  I was quoting Mr. Ross.  I was explaining precisely *what*   
   Mr. Ross accused you of.   
      
   BTW: Why are you calling Mr. Ross "Piggy" when he hasn't posted here in   
   years?   
      
      
      
   >> Nor has this practice of yours ever been remotely secret.  You have   
   >> detailed it numerous times in your posts regarding your "system of   
   >> ethics" known as "Tit for Tat."   
   >   
   >> Basically, if someone praises your   
   >> poetry, you will return the praise.   
   >   
   > Now, that's not true, Lying Michael. I don't want mindless praise any   
   > more than mindless criticism, so I don't give those to anyone else --   
   > that's reciprocal ethics (or "tit for Tat if you want, which it seems   
   > you do) in action.   
      
   You're the one who openly *stated* that you practiced "Tit for Tat" as a   
   "system of ethics" here.   
      
      
   >> If someone belittles your poetry,   
   >> you will belittle theirs.   
   >   
   > No, Lying Michael, that is not true, either. You know that very well, as   
   > you constantly try to belittle my poetry, while I don't belittle yours;   
   > for the most part, I don't comment on it.   
      
   I don't belittle your poetry, George. I have repeatedly stated (often   
   defending your poetry to my "allies") that you are a very skilled   
   writer.  I have repeated this statement more than once in this thread.   
      
   The truth is that I don't praise your poetry as highly as you think I   
   should.   
      
      
   >> OTOH, I have always been fair and balanced in my reviews of poetry   
   >> posted to AAPC.  Go back and browse through the "comments" on the old   
   >> "Sunday Samplers."   
   >   
   > Michael, I vaguely remember your reviews of my poems; I had no problem   
   > with those, but you wrote them years before you put me on your "Team   
   > Donkey" list of perceived adversaries. They should be compared with   
   > reviews of my poetry that you've given afterward.   
      
   You vaguely remember something I wrote last week in this thread?   
      
   If so, you need to see a doctor, ASAP.   
      
   As always, HtH & HAND   
      
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