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   >>>>>> There is not even a hint of evading poetic responsibility in my   
   >>>>>> statement.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It's clear here that MMP is saying no one can blame him or Mr. Chimp for   
   >>>>> what they write, because it's not their choice; their "muses" made them   
   >>>>> write it that way. You just take dictation.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Quite the contrary, it stresses the importance of *not*   
   >>>>>> sacrificing inspiration by forcing it into a preconceived format.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> 3) Jim is a far better poet than you.  Jim's poems strike the reader as   
   >>>>>>> being real -- powerfully, emotionally raw, unadulterated reality.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> This is the other side of MMP's editorial philosophy: "When Jim is seen   
   >>>>> as a potential ally, you request his poetry." That's raw, unadulterated   
   >>>>> reality.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Your   
   >>>>>>> poems, otoh, express time-worn, mundane thoughts in imitative formats.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> GD: Interestingly, MMP concludes by once again praising the work of   
   >>>>>> an   
   >>>>>> ally Jim ("Edward") while insulting the work of an adversary. If he were   
   >>>>>> still here, I'm sure he'd shrug that off as just a coincidence.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> MMP: J.D. Senetto is an exceptionally talented poet.  In fact, my   
   >>>>>> greatest difficulty in selecting which poems to include in AYoS' year   
   >>>>>> end print journal, is in deciding which of Jim's poems to leave out.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Now, that's as adulatory as if the Chimp wrote it himself - and just as   
   >>>>> meaningful, I'm afraid. As I've said, and not just to MMP and his team:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If a poet consistently praised his own and only his own work, that   
   >>>>> wouldn't be seen as a comment on the work but on the poet. Do you agree   
   >>>>> so far?   
   >>>>> If instead two poets considtently praised each other's, and only each   
   >>>>> other's, work, I wouldn't see that as any different.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Actually, it's the readers who will make that decision, George.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> GD: Well, we can ask the readers who won this round: Michael's   
   >>>>>> adversary,   
   >>>>>> whose poem was edited by an illiterate; or Michael's ally, the   
   >>>>>> illiterate who did the editing.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> MMP: I think it abundantly clear that Mr. Rochester is the winner, since   
   >>>>>> his "edit" of your poem has weighed so heavily on your consciousness   
   >>>>>> that you felt compelled to address it a second time... nearly two years   
   >>>>>> after the fact.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That should be "clear" to anyone. Rereading the thread and thinking of   
   >>>>> new things to say would be enough to explain why I'd comment again.   
   >>>>> There's no no reason to think that I'd thought of Mr. Chimp's edit in   
   >>>>> the intervening time, and I certainly can't say that I have. For   
   >>>>> another, I did not address his edit in my reply; I tried to keep the   
   >>>>> focus consistently on MMP's "third man" intervention into the flame war   
   >>>>> Mr. Chimp had begun; and the new points I made in that respect were   
   >>>>> enough to merit a new reply.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> OTOH, I doubt Jim has given it a single thought.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That's possibly true. It's questionable whether Mr. Chimp gives anything   
   >>>>> he does much thought.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You sure have Michael Pendragon in a tizzy today.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 😏   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh no!  Not the dreaded tizzy!   
   >>>   
   >>> How will I ever live it down???   
   >>>   
   >>> --   
   >>   
   >> You should be used to it by now, Pendragon.   
   >>   
   >> 😏   
   >   
   > I'm used to all of your idiotic stock comments   
      
   As I'm very familiar with yours, Pendragon.   
      
   > Trolls get off on pushing others into an emotionally upset state   
   > ("MELTDOWN!").   
      
   You should know, Pendragon, after all, I know you're proud of your troll   
   status.   
      
      
   HTH and HAND.   
      
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