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   wake up, brush your teeth, shave, shower, apply deodorant, iron your   
   clothes, dress, comb your hair, and top it off with an unobtrusive dash   
   of cologne.   
      
   Being conscientious by nature, you opt to take public transportation (in   
   this particular story, a bus).   
      
   One day a "smelly old bum... (who) hasn't showered in a year" (to borrow   
   the words of a Weird Al Yankovic song) sits down beside you.   
      
   You are both physically and emotionally repulsed by his presence, are   
   afraid that his filth (and its adherent stench) is rubbing off on your   
   nice fresh outfit, and you suspect that he is harboring colonies of   
   fleas, lice, bedbugs, and various sorts of deadly bacteria which you are   
   scared of picking up.   
      
   However, you are also a considerate person, so you swallow your mounting   
   nausea, hold your breath, and subject yourself to the ride.   
      
   Unfortunately, no good deed, as they say, ever goes unpunished.  Your   
   consideration toward the pissbum, has made him desirous of having you as   
   his traveling companion for all future commutes.  He therefore makes a   
   beeline for you whenever he sees an empty seat beside you on the bus.   
      
   After several weeks of this, you have reached a point where you dread   
   having to get on the bus.  So when a co-worker from a neighboring town   
   offers you the opportunity carpool, you jump at the chance.   
      
   Now the question: Did the bum drive you off the bus, or was it merely a   
   "choice" on your part?   
      
      
   >> Many of us stuck it out here until the demise of Google Groups.  We then   
   >> had a choice: switch to a free Newsreader (Novabbs was relatively simple   
   >> to sign up to), or go over to FB.   
   >   
   > If you "stuck it out here" then you were not driven off. You can   
      
   .. until we no longer stuck it out here.  At that point (according to   
   your argument) we would, in fact, have been driven off.   
      
   >> Why do you think Robert, NancyGene, Jim, ME, Ash, Corey, Karen,   
   >> Wenceslas, Richard, and I chose to go to Facebook?   
   >>   
   >> RHETORICAL QUESTION ALERT!   
   >   
   > too bad. If you ask a question, especially a compound question like   
   > that, you can expect a reply.   
      
   I do expect a reply, George.  I'm just making it clear that my question   
   comes with a preconceived *point* that I'd like you to address.   
      
      
   > Three n that list were Team Monkey (you,   
   > JIm, and NG) three were Bandar-Log (Robert, ME, and Ash) and one was a   
   > wannabe (Corey). I'll let you speak for them, but I'll note that only   
   > Corey left before google pulled the plug. As for the other three - Karen   
   > (who left aapc after flaming from ME and Dink drove her out), Richard,   
   > and Wenceslas (whom I don't remember, period), I've got to say I don't   
   > know. Maybe they believed that your "Official Notice" that aapc had   
   > moved to facebook really was an "Official Notice". In any case since   
   > they're neither Team Monkey nor Bandar-Log, you do not speak for them.   
      
   I'm not speaking for anyone, George.  I'm merely reporting the facts.   
      
   They used to post here.  Now they post on the FB Group.   
      
   They obviously left here, to post somewhere else.   
      
   Draw your own conclusion.   
      
      
   >> The answer, of course, is obvious.  We wanted to be able to post in a   
   >> non-combative, friendly atmosphere where the local children wouldn't   
   >> call flood the group with spam posts and call us by childish names (like   
   >> Bobby Burro).   
   >   
   > Give those last three my email: georgedance04@yahoo.ca. If I hear from   
   > any of them that they left aapc because of my "Bobby Burro" limerick, or   
   > because they thought I was mean to the poor Burro in general, then I'll   
   > believe it.   
      
   It wasn't the one limerick, George.  It was the combined total of 100s   
   of such attack posts that drove everyone away.   
      
   There are no Donkeys, Monkeys, Chimps, Nazis, Dunces, Piggies, Dinks,   
   etc., there.   
      
   People come to poetry groups to post and discuss poetry.   
      
   They have simply chosen the Official AAPC FB Group's friendly   
   environment over the toxically hostile environment that has always   
   existed here.   
      
   The real question you should be asking yourself is *why has Usenet AAPC   
   been unable to create/maintain a friendly atmosphere*?   
      
   I feel the answer is obvious. But it's something that you'll need to   
   figure out for yourself.   
      
      
   >>>>>> Care to take a wild guess as to who drove Robert off of this group?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If you seriously think that he left the group because I wrote a limerick   
   >>>>> about him, then I guess you think I "drove Robert off the group." But I   
   >>>>> doubt that even you think he's that much of a snowflake that he'd run   
   >>>>> away to facebook just because someone wrote a limerick about him.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This particular limerick?  No.   
   >>>   
   >>>> What soured him on the group were your disgusting comments regarding his   
   >>>> undergoing a bone marrow transplant.   
   >>>   
   >>> So he "soured" on the group - Well, boo-hoo. That's no reason for you to   
   >>> pretend that he was driven off.   
   >>   
   >> When the actions of a group of people (in this case, Will Donkey,   
   >> "Jordy," Stinky George, and yourself) cause someone to "sour" on the   
   >> group (especially by opening attack threads about them), they have   
   >> effectively driven them away.   
   >   
   > No, that's not true at all. If someone sours on the group, they usually   
   > stay here and troll. Once again, Team Monkey et al left because they   
   > could no longer post on google, plain and simple.   
      
   And, once again, everyone had both the ability and the opportunity to do   
   so.   
      
   >> I'm sure you pretend that you and Donkey (socks inclusive) didn't drive   
   >> me away, but that's exactly what you did.   
   >   
   > Of course we didn't drive you away. You stopped posting here because you   
   > had no way to post; as soon as you got one, you were back under a new   
   > sock.   
      
   As noted above: I shall be dropping by sporadically from here on in.  If   
   I see anything that needs correcting, I will do so at that time.   
      
   If I don't see anything in need of correction, I shall leave without   
   starting any new threads.   
      
   This if my final post for today -- and, consequently for this visit.   
      
      
   >> When you make your presence as welcome as excrement, you are driving   
   >> people away... the non-coprophiliacs, at any rate.   
   >>   
   >>>>> Now it's my turn to ask a question: WHY are you flaming a poem I wrote   
   >>>>> and posted two years ago? How do you think your actions here are any   
   >>>>> different from mine in the thread where you were doing your "Jerk Store"   
   >>>>> laming?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why don't you ask your Donkey?  He's the one who necroposted it.   
   >>>   
   >>> He "necroposted" the thread you were flaming me about for replying too,   
   >>> Michael Monkey Peabrain. Once again: why did you decide to do the same   
   >>> thing you were previously complaining about my doing?   
   >>   
   >> I haven't flamed your poem, George.  I haven't discussed it at all --   
   >> apart from pointing out that it was one of the many things you did here   
   >> to drive Robert away.   
   >>   
   >> Your limerick isn't funny (which is the most important thing for a   
   >> successful limerick to be). It isn't witty, and certainly isn't   
   >> profound. In fact, I can't imagine any reason for writing or posting   
   >> it, apart from the opportunity it afforded you to indulge in your   
   >> favorite pasttime of childish name-calling.   
   >   
   > As noted, our senses of humor are completely different. You think that   
   > if you call someone a "pedophile" or a "retard" that's funny or witty.   
   > (Witness your comments on your "Slurp Puppet" above.   
      
   There was so much more to "Slurp-puppet" than that, George.  But you'd   
   actually have to read the poem to realize it.   
      
      
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