[continued from previous message]   
      
   > As for 'profundity', I'll repeat that it was a very incisive portrait of   
   > a type that I've encountered here repeatedly: the person who tries to   
   > fit into a writing group, not by demonstrating any good writing of his   
   > own, but by adopting an attitude of superiority to put down others'   
   > writing. (Note that when I say "others' writing" I am not referring to   
   > my own writing.)   
      
   The proof is in the pudding, George.   
      
   I do not put down anyone's work at the Official AAPC FB Group.   
      
   Both there, and here, I have offered constructive criticism -- and have   
   always been grateful upon receiving said in return.   
      
   People looked forward to my critiques on the "Sampler" poems, and   
   repeatedly told me as much.  Some, like your Donkey, often begged me to   
   review their work.   
      
   I like to think that my comments have been helpful to them -- as their   
   comments have most certainly been helpful to me.   
      
   As to Will Donkey's poetry, you may recall that I'd avoided commenting   
   on it for the first year or so that I was here (and Will's ally).  It   
   was only after having watched one of his videos that I was able to do   
   so.  I noted then, that I had refrained from commenting on Will's   
   poetry, because I found it incomprehensible (read "terrible"), but that   
   it works quite well as a song lyric -- particularly for a 3am, drunk off   
   your ass in a barroom audience.  I still hold that position today.   
      
   If I were drunk off my ass in a bar at 3am and Will Donkey and his   
   karaoke band were performing, I'd find the music perfect for both the   
   moment and the milieu.  His sentence fragments and often   
   incomprehensible narratives work as a 3am song lyric.  They don't work   
   as poetry.   
      
   IOW: Rather than assuming a lofty attitude and belittling Will's poetry,   
   I waited until I had found a way in which I could appreciate it *before*   
   commenting.  And, even though we aren't speaking about your poetry, I'd   
   adopted a similar approach with you.   
      
   None of us are successful poets.  We're all actively engaged in better   
   understanding, and working to improve, our craft.  Correction: those of   
   us you refer to as "Team Monkey" feel that way.   
      
   The truth is (and some very old threads that NancyGene resurrected have   
   demonstrated this in no uncertain terms) that you and your Donkey have   
   never been able to accept any form of criticism regarding your work --   
   and have responded to even well-intentioned, constructive criticism with   
   childish insults and "Tit for Tat" "revenge critiques."   
      
   And *that* is the reason why AAPC died: in or around 2010 (and probably   
   several times before), and last year.   
      
   Not that it really matters at this point.  After all, the only people   
   still coming her are Will Donkey and his socks.   
      
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