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   > And Arthur Parker was a Depression Era   
   > sheet music salesman who defiantly clung to his belief that life must be   
   > like it is in the songs -- even when facing the gallows for a crime he   
   > didn't commit.   
      
   So you identify with characters who (1) are financially unstable, (2 and   
   3) reject religion (and ethics), and (4) have a delusional view of the   
   world. That's illuminating, but it doesn't answer the question we were   
   debating.   
      
   > In short, I'm an Epicurean-Pantheist-Luciferic-Byronic Romantic who   
   > always seeks to find the ideal in a less than perfect world.   
   >   
   > As to my alleged "lying."   
      
   > This is another example of George's "IKYABWAI" ethical system at work.   
      
   > "Why do you lie so much, Dunce?" is a catchphrase question that PJR   
   > would often put to George.   
      
   So you're copying "PJR" again (which is probably one reason Will came up   
   with the theory that you're mostly a "second-hander" like Keating.   
      
   > Why I revived it in PJR's absence, George   
   > immediately began tit-for-tatting it back to me.   
      
   No, Lying Michael; I don't use that phrase. Whenever I catch you in a   
   lie I simply note it by calling you Lying Michael, and move on.   
      
   > I don't lie in Usenet groups (well, maybe a little one now and then for   
   > humor's sake -- told with a wink to those perceptive enough to pick up   
   > on it) -- it's too easy to get caught.  Conversations here are archived,   
   > and anything one says can and will be used against them at a future   
   > date.   
      
   As I've explained to you many a time; nor is it a good yet here you are,   
   trying it yet again.   
   The question, as Will asked, is why you do it.   
      
   > I also find George's description of how abused children are prone to   
   > becoming lying adults telling -- as George also had an abusive parent   
   > (actually both of George's parents were abusive).   
      
   No, Lying Michael, that is not what I said (which is probably why you   
   tried snipping it.) I said it's reasonable to think that all children   
   try lying to escape punishment at some time. Whether they continue it,   
   as children and later on as adults, is contingent on how well it worked   
   for them.   
      
   > It seems that George   
   > has finally answered PJR's ongoing question of "Why do you lie so much,   
   > Dunce."   
      
   I've answered that question many a time, usually with "Why do you   
   project so much, Piggy?" - the same phrase I use on you when   
   you copy it. Of course, with him (and with you) it's as much conscious   
   preemption as much as unconscious projection, but   
   there was no point trying to explain all that to him.   
      
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