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   W.Dockery to HarryLime   
   Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery (2/2)   
   04 Feb 25 09:08:43   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >>>>> The fact that you would post this in your 60s, only shows how   
   >>>>> insensitive and misogynistic you've remained over the years.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The poem was written on May 8th 1982 and probably isn't something I'd   
   >>>> write in 2025.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why not?  Your writing certainly hasn't evolved any.  If anything, it's   
   >>> actually gotten worse.   
   >>>   
   >>> And the fact that you still post it in 2025 means that you don't see   
   >>> anything wrong with it.   
      
   Well, no, I have often stated that 1982 was a rather wild era for many   
   young people and I was a young poet heavily influenced by Beatnik jazz   
   poetry and the then current punk rock scene in Atlanta Georgia.   
      
   Bands like The Clash, Patti Smith and CTC were as influential on me and   
   my poetry as the Beat poets such as Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg and   
   Charles Bukowski.   
      
   "Those were different times."   
      
   > Much the same way that you don't see anything   
   >>> wrong in having written a poem about how you'd performed oral sex on a   
   >>> co-worker (at the local pizzeria -- while you were married   
      
   Well, that did happen, although you've gotten the details wrong.   
      
   In other words, another misrepresentation.   
      
   > and left it   
   >>> lying around where your 6-year old son (give or take) could read it   
      
   That never happened.   
      
   Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?   
      
   >>> bring it to the attention of your wife.   
      
   The above is actually a misrepresentation of the events, which is   
   typical of the combination of lies and poor memory of Michael Pendragon.   
      
   >>>> Sorry you're so sensitive, but that's also why I've tried rewrites over   
   >>>> the years but just finally decided to settle on leaving it in the   
   >>>> "Erotic poetry" genre.   
   >>>   
   >>> There's nothing "erotic"   
      
   Again, Erotic poetry is a genre, and can't be expected to appeal to   
   every reader, Pendragon.   
      
   >  about "putting (your) finger to her hole,"   
      
   It's a genre of poetry, Pendragon.   
      
   Your mileage might vary.   
      
   >>>   You couldn't possibly have expressed it in less erotic terms.   
   >>> It comes across as vulgar, impersonal, to the extent of being almost   
   >>> mechanical.  As erotic literature, it's on a par with saying "I walked   
   >>> into the men's room and took a dump."   
      
      
   In your opinion, again.   
      
   Thanks for reading and commenting.   
      
   >>> --   
   >>   
   >> Thanks again for reading and commenting, Pendragon.   
   >>   
   >> I don't have time right now but I'll return soon for a more in depth   
   >> response.   
      
   But now, a few hours later, I have the time:   
      
   > Ah! This was formerly expressed as "I'll get back to you this after I've   
   > made a pot of coffee."  Needless to say, the coffee never materialized.   
      
   Which I've done, after a good night's sleep as well.   
      
   > lack adequate reading comprehension skills.   
      
   That's actually your problem, apparently, Pendragon, since you can't   
   seem to understand where my poem is coming from.   
      
   In other words, it went over your head.   
      
   > Your writing shows that you lack adequate compositional skills.   
      
   Your opinion only   
      
      
   Again, my writing was in the style of the Beatnik poets and punk rockers   
   of the era.   
      
   It was intentionally crude, as many rock and roll style lyrics often   
   are.   
      
   > Your content shows that you lack even the most basic social and cultural   
   > skills (outside of a Neanderthal clan, that is).   
      
   The poem was written in 1982 in a countercultural society based on   
   anarchy, a population of free spirits.   
      
   I was heavily influenced by the Beat poets of the recent past and the   
   wild excesses of the then current punk and new wave scenes.   
      
   > follow   
   > my advice and enroll in a free online basic English course.   
      
   I've been a writer for over fifty years now, Pendragon, this isn't my   
   first rodeo.   
      
   > As you have a single-digit intelligence quotient   
      
   As if you had the intelligence or expertise to judge such a matter,   
   Michael Pendragon.   
      
   HTH and HAND.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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