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   HarryLime to George J. Dance   
   Re: The Psycho-epistemolgy of MMP (4/4)   
   04 Feb 25 15:29:59   
   
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   reshaping society for the betterment of all.  Wynand is who Toohey would   
   like to be -- but cannot.   
      
   Toohey was inspired by Stalin, but from a literary standpoint, he is the   
   grandson of Uriah Heep.  He has learned how to flatter the public by   
   constantly telling them how "humble" he is, and by explaining to them   
   how he is happy to be their servant and has only their best interest at   
   heart.  But just a Mr. Heep was using his "humility" to gain control Mr.   
   Wickfield and his fortune, so Ellsworth Toohey is using his professed   
   altruism to gain the support of the masses in his bid for social power.   
      
      
   >> You really don't get Ayn Rand, George.  I find this revelation most   
   >> disheartening, as you claim to have read and studied all of her works.   
   >> To have missed her messages on pretty much every level imaginable, is...   
   >> well, it would be comparable to how I would feel if I found out that I'd   
   >> spent the past 40-odd years having misunderstood everything written by   
   >> Edgar Poe.   
   >   
   > I understand her just fine. I'd say that you were the one who   
   > misunderstands her, but (considering I'm not talking to a person but a   
   > sock) one knows where that would lead: You'd put your hands over your   
   > ears, stamp your little foot, and cry "IKYABWAI!" again.   
      
   I beg to differ, George.   
      
   Again, I can understand your resistance to the fact that you've   
   misinterpreted Rand.  Your misinterpretation appears to largely spring   
   from your profound misunderstanding of Nietzsche (whose writings for the   
   basis of Rand's works).  If you don't understand Nietzsche, you cannot   
   understand Rand. Zarathustra (Nietzsche) said that Man was halfway along   
   the bridge between Animal and Overman (and that even the Overman state   
   was only the beginning of our journey).  Roark was farther advanced   
   along that bridge than anyone else at that time.  Roark represented the   
   Nietzschean ideal.   
      
   --   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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