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|    HarryLime to George J. Dance    |
|    Re: The Psycho-epistemolgy of MMP (4/4)    |
|    04 Feb 25 15:29:59    |
      [continued from previous message]              reshaping society for the betterment of all. Wynand is who Toohey would       like to be -- but cannot.              Toohey was inspired by Stalin, but from a literary standpoint, he is the       grandson of Uriah Heep. He has learned how to flatter the public by       constantly telling them how "humble" he is, and by explaining to them       how he is happy to be their servant and has only their best interest at       heart. But just a Mr. Heep was using his "humility" to gain control Mr.       Wickfield and his fortune, so Ellsworth Toohey is using his professed       altruism to gain the support of the masses in his bid for social power.                     >> You really don't get Ayn Rand, George. I find this revelation most       >> disheartening, as you claim to have read and studied all of her works.       >> To have missed her messages on pretty much every level imaginable, is...       >> well, it would be comparable to how I would feel if I found out that I'd       >> spent the past 40-odd years having misunderstood everything written by       >> Edgar Poe.       >       > I understand her just fine. I'd say that you were the one who       > misunderstands her, but (considering I'm not talking to a person but a       > sock) one knows where that would lead: You'd put your hands over your       > ears, stamp your little foot, and cry "IKYABWAI!" again.              I beg to differ, George.              Again, I can understand your resistance to the fact that you've       misinterpreted Rand. Your misinterpretation appears to largely spring       from your profound misunderstanding of Nietzsche (whose writings for the       basis of Rand's works). If you don't understand Nietzsche, you cannot       understand Rand. Zarathustra (Nietzsche) said that Man was halfway along       the bridge between Animal and Overman (and that even the Overman state       was only the beginning of our journey). Roark was farther advanced       along that bridge than anyone else at that time. Roark represented the       Nietzschean ideal.              --              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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