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|    W.Dockery to HarryLime    |
|    Re: I Met A Girl / Will Dockery (2/2)    |
|    08 Feb 25 14:44:06    |
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   > 6) "At this point," that is, as an immediate reaction to her words, you   
   > "kissed her and put [your] finger to her hole."   
   > 7) You then repeat the stanza about here talking "spacey" and about   
   > you're being unable to remember her name -- even though she had told it   
   > to you twice.   
   > 8) You then tell the reader that you don't know what made you dream of   
   > her.   
   > 9) You say that you'd made a couple of puns about her name (the one you   
   > couldn't remember), and that the puns made *you* blush.   
   > 10) Now, having awoken from your dream, you just want to find her (i.e.,   
   > stalk some girl you barely knew).   
   >   
   > That's a very disturbing poem. And it becomes even more disturbing when   
   > you say that it wasn't a dream, but that it really happened ("I was   
   > there, I lived it.").   
   >   
   > After numerous attempts to explain what actually took place, you've   
   > finally reached a point where what actually happened is clear:   
   >   
   > 1) You were partying with some college age punk rocker types.   
   > 2) You met a girl there who you used to see walking around the halls of   
   > your high school (but to whom you were too shy to strike up a   
   > conversation with).   
   > 3) You talked awhile, but the conversation was awkward and detached   
   > (possibly because she was stoned).   
   > 4) Even though you didn't really connect, you started kissing, because   
   > you were both drunk./stoned at a college party and that's what people do   
   > there.   
   > Eventually you worked your way up to some "heavy petting," but that's   
   > all the farther that it got.   
   > 5) Now, 40-some years later, you can no longer remember her name.   
   >   
   > The two scenarios are telling *very* different stories. If you knew how   
   > to express yourself clearly, you could have written a poem that would   
   > only have been offensive in its misogynistic tone and in your crudely   
   > referring to her "hole." That, from our discussions, was the poem's   
   > *intended* effect. But again, that is *not* how your poem comes across   
   > -- because you failed to make the events comprising your narrative   
   > clear.   
   >   
   > Don't blame me because you don't know how to write.   
   >   
   > Learn from the experience and enroll in a basic writing course.   
      
   Okay, there are senior citizen classes available at Columbus State   
   University so perhaps I'll sign up for some of those.   
      
   > I am not suggest this to belittle you in any way. Rather, it is the   
   > best, and kindest, advice that anyone will ever give to you.   
      
   Okay, in that spirit, I thank you.   
      
   >>> Harry Liar reposted an "edited" poem Will had written over 40 years ago   
   >>> about a dream he'd had. You reposted part of the poem, snipping the line   
   >>> about it being a dream, to falsely accuse him of sexual assault.   
   >>>   
   >>> Here's the thread, so readers can see for themselves:   
   >>   
   >> https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=15788&group=   
   ec.arts.poems#15788   
   >>   
   >> Thanks again for reading and commenting, George.   
   >   
   > --   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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