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   > didn't write its opening line - which is logically no different from   
   > claiming that he didn't write it.   
   >   
   >>>> George Dance, if you are going to accuse us of plagiarizing a poem,   
   >>>> posting one "line" from a poem that does not seem to have been published   
   >>>> anywhere is not sufficient proof.   
   >>>   
   >>> Your failure to find the poem via a google search does not indicate that   
   >>> it was not published. After all, Creeley is a published poet who wrote   
   >>> the bulk of his poetry before the web existed.   
      
   Decades before, actually.   
      
      
   >> Which is precisely why we have both asked you to provide us with either   
   >> a link to the poem, or with information regarding the book/journal in   
   >> which it appeared.   
   >   
   > So you want me to do your research again; but we both know how that will   
   > turn out. If I gave you the name of the book, you'd "doubt" that the   
   > poem was really in it, and demand that I prove that. if I then gave you   
   > the table of contents, showing the poem title, you'd "doubt" that it   
   > contained the line and demand that I produce the entire poem. If I then   
   > gave you the entire poem, you'd go back to "doubting" that Creeley wrote   
   > it and "assuming" that I did (which, once again, come to the same   
   > thing.) You're simply trolling again, this time with your most faithful   
   > ally.   
      
   Just like old times, eh?   
      
   > OTOH, if you're actually interested in reading Creeley's poem, not just   
   > simply trolling for once, there's no reason you can't look for it   
   > yourself. Get off your asses and do what we used to do before the   
   > internet existed. NG claims to use a local library; let them start   
   > there.   
      
   Good advice.   
      
   >> Again, if you are, in fact, quoting from a real poem, you must have had   
   >> a copy of that poem in front of you.   
      
      
   Exactly.   
      
   >>>> Perhaps you could supply the name of   
   >>>> the book in which the poem was published?   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, in fact I could.   
      
   Robert Creeley published 60 books of poetry, after all.   
      
   Must of that poetry isn't available online yet, possibly ever.   
      
   >>>> Or perhaps you could give us   
   >>>> the first four lines of the poem (which would not violate copyright   
   >>>> laws) so that we could compare our poem with that of Mr. Creeley.  Or   
   >>>> just give us the url where you found the poem.   
   >>>   
   >>> Perhaps I could do that, too; but why would I give you four lines of his   
   >>> poem when y'all have shared only two lines of your own?   
      
   Exactly.   
      
   >> Since you have located NancyGene's poem in a google search, you should   
   >> be able to click on the links.   
   >   
   > I see you're back to playing the peabrain, HarryLiar. Of course I can   
   > click on the link to your facebook page, but I can't read NastyGoon's   
   > poem there because you blocked me from reading the poems there.   
      
   I can safely say you're missing nothing there.   
      
   >> If you have been blocked from them,   
   >> which well may be the case, you should be able to read her poem in full   
   >> when it appears in our online magazine next month.   
   >   
   >> Since her poem is scheduled for publication, you cannot expect her to   
   >> post it in this group.   
   >   
   > Frankly, I have no interest at all in reading their poetry. They have   
   > posted enough of it in this group to last for a month.   
      
   Ilk second that.   
      
   >>>> George Dance, you are not the only person who knows the names of poets.   
   >>>> We understand that you are jealous and perhaps even afraid of us, and   
   >>>> what you write reflects that insecurity.   
   >>>   
   >>> NastyGoon, a belief that other people are jealous and afraid of you   
   >>> sounds like a sign you may be suffering from narcissistic personality   
   >>> disorder. You should really seek professional help for that.   
      
   Not to mention her bizarre split personality.   
      
   >> Unless, of course, she's right.  I have already stated that you're   
   >> jealous of her.   
   >   
   > Yes, of course you have; that's probably where they got the idea in the   
   > first place. Notice I asked her to talk to a "professional" which   
   > excludes you.   
   >   
   >> Am I suffering from NPD by proxy?   
   >   
   > No, I'd say you're suffering from straight NPD; you have the same   
   > irrational belief that those who dislike you are jealous of you.   
   >   
   > Given your M.O. of slurping your allies and attacking your supposed   
   > enemies, it's expected that you'd convince them to believe the same   
   > thing. I bet even your Chimp now believes that I'm jealous of him, too.   
   >   
   >> As to your being   
   >> afraid of her superior intellect... if you aren't, you certainly should   
   >> be.   
   >   
   > There's nothing wrong with NG's intellect; unlike your Chimp, e.g., they   
   > were capable of learning how rhyme worked. Who knows, they may even   
   > understand meter by now. Their major problem has always been their   
   > stupidity (willful ignorance); which is something you're enabling with   
   > your constant slurpage of them.   
      
      
   I'm out of time for now so I'll just add a well put here for now.   
      
   😏   
      
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