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   >>> To correct your lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight   
   >>> one more time.   
   >   
   > Or fifty more, if necessary.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>> How you can even claim that his dislike of you had anything to do with   
   >>>> Pickering   
   >   
   > That's exactly how it happened.   
      
      
   Are you claiming that he never complained about your having treated   
   yourself to dinner on his dime?   
      
      
   >>> That's exactly how it started.   
   >>>   
   >>> You and Senetto tried to force me to join y'all in attempting to drive   
   >>> Stephan Pickering from the poetry newsgroup.   
   >   
   > Exactly as it happened ^^^   
      
   I repeatedly told you that I did not expect you to take a side against   
   someone you had been friends with for 20 years.  I only told you to stop   
   supporting his attacks against me.   
      
      
   >   
   >>> When I refused to join you, y'all tried to kick me out of the newsgroup   
   >>> as well.   
   >   
   > Exactly as it happened ^^^   
      
   Donkeyshit.   
      
      
   The collective desire to ban you from the Newgroup arose from your   
   flooding the group with slurp- and necro-posts in order to bury The   
   Sunday Sampler thread each week.   
      
   The Sampler thread was far and away the most popular, and as your poems   
   were often overlooked in the comments it received, you countered by   
   burying the group in your swill.   
      
   That's all archived as well, Donkey.   
      
   >   
   >> 1) We never asked you to attack the Pickle   
   >   
   > Yes you did, that's an archived fact.   
      
   PP OR STFU.   
      
   > > The only thing I asked you to do was to stop responding   
   >   
   > No, the archives show you and Jim Senetto expected me to join you two in   
   > driving the late Stephan Pickering from this newsgroup, while I declined   
   > involvement in, preferring to be neutral.   
      
   PP or STFU.   
      
      
   >> 2) Jim was mad at you over the $50.   
   >   
   > Which was refunded DOUBLE, I paid $100 for that $50.   
      
   refund   
   1 of 3   
   verb (1)   
   re·​fund ri-ˈfənd  ˈrē-ˌfənd   
   refunded; refunding; refunds   
   Synonyms of refund   
   transitive verb   
      
   1   
   : to give or put back   
   2   
   : to return (money) in restitution, repayment, or balancing of accounts   
      
      
   Words matter, Donkey.   
      
      
   >> One day George   
   >   
   > You know you're supposed to call him General Zod.   
      
   I'm not supposed to call him anything, Donkey.   
      
      
   >  introduced himself to the group.  You said that   
   >> he was a long-time friend of yours in real life.   
   >>   
   >> George then proceeded to ingratiate himself with all of the AAPC members   
   >> by placing one of his dozen or so stock comments at the end of each of   
   >> our poems ("Great Poem," "Nice poem," "Interesting," "One of your best,"   
   >> etc.).   
   >   
   > Zod loves poetry as most of us know.   
      
   Stinky George loves (or pretends to love) your backside.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> After a week or so had passed, you started a thread wherein you told us   
   >> all that George was about to be thrown out into the street.  You told us   
   >> that he was recovering from a car accident and unable to work, and that   
   >> he was waiting for a disability check from the VA (which he was   
   >> expecting hourly). In the meantime, he needed to get up the funds   
   >> necessary to keep his landlord from throwing him out.  You didn't   
   >> directly ask for any money   
   >   
   > Exactly, and never wanted or expected any money.   
      
   Then why did you publicly fret over his situation in this group?   
      
      
   >> Jim sent you $50 (cash) with instructions that you give it to George to   
   >> help tide over his landlord until the disability check arrived.   
   >   
   >   
   > None of this was actually specified.   
      
   It was, Donkey.  You specifically pointed out that he was expecting the   
   VA check any day and just needed a little something to appease his   
   landlord till then.   
      
   >   
   >> Jim sent the money and posted a message to you that it was in the mail.   
   >>   
   >> you hadn't given George any of your own money was because he   
   >> would only have spent it on booze, drugs, and whores.   
   >   
   > No, you're my making that up, I never wrote that, Pendragon.   
      
   I didn't save the original quote, Donkey, but I've got two similar ones   
   you made shortly thereafter:   
      
   "Well, knowing Sulzbach as I do, I was pleasantly surprised he decided   
   to spend the money on something other than booze and drugs." -- Will   
   Donkey   
      
   "Well, knowing Sulzbach as I do, I was pleasantly surprised he decided   
   to spend the money on something other than booze and drugs.  Or beer,   
   wine, weed or hookers..." -- Will Donkey   
      
      
   >> A few days later, you emailed Jim that the money had been received and   
   >> put to good use: treating you and your brother to steak dinners.  Since   
   >> steak dinners are more nourishing than booze and drugs, you were quite   
   >> proud of having convinced George to buy you and brother dinner instead.   
   >   
   > That's exactly right.   
   >   
   > 😏   
   >   
   >> instead of apologizing and offering   
   >> to return the money   
   >   
   > No, I offered to reimburse Senetto almost immediately.   
   >   
   > As the newsgroup archives show   
   >   
   >>  George then chimed in that he had never asked for   
   >> Jim's money, and that he do with it as he pleased.   
   >   
   >   
   > That never happened, Pendragon.   
      
   You just said in this thread (see above) that "The money was Zod's to   
   spend as he pleased."   
      
   Both you and your Stinky friend have made dozens of variations on that   
   remark over the years.   
      
      
   > You're either suffering memory loss again or you're lying again.   
   >   
   > Perhaps both.   
   >   
   >> Jim is too nice a person to have demanded the money back,   
   >   
   > Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Pendragon?   
      
   You misunderstand me, Donkey.  I said that "*Jim* is too nice a person   
   to have demanded the money back," not you.   
      
      
   >  but he   
   >> insisted that you had misused the money he sent, and wanted you to send   
   >> $50 of your own money to a good cause.  So you wrote your daughter a   
   >> check   
   >   
   > That's correct.   
   >   
   > That was the first $50 I reimbursed Jim Senetto on.   
      
   That is not what "reimbursed" means, Donkey.   
      
   If you can't use a word correctly don't use it at all.   
      
   In fact, as I have repeatedly advised you in the past, you should limit   
   your entire vocabulary to monosyllables.   
      
   >   
   >> Eventually, you sent the money to an Animal Shelter   
   >   
   > That was the second time I paid for a refund.   
      
   How do you pay for a refund?  You either refund the money or you don't.   
   You didn't.   
      
   >   
   > In the end I spent over $100 on Jim Senetto's stupid whining.   
   >   
   >> When you started calling Jim controlling   
   >   
   > I called it as I saw it, no apology.   
   >   
   > (and various other things) for   
   >> having wanted you to use the money to   
   >   
   > I gave Zod the $$$ and he spent it as he pleased.   
   >   
   > Which was completely his right.   
      
   Jim sent the money for Stinky to give to his landlord.  When you later   
   claimed that his landlord wasn't open to accepting money (Stinky G not   
   having paid him for several months), Jim told you to use the money to   
   purchase supplies for survival (tent, sleeping bag, blankets,   
   non-perishable food, etc.).   
      
   Jim did not send the money for Stinky G to blow on "booze and drugs.  Or   
   beer, wine, weed or hookers..." -- or on steak dinners for you and your   
   brother.   
      
      
   >   
   >  actually *help* your   
   >> soon-to-be-homeless friend   
   >   
   > The money was well spent as Zod chose to spend it.   
      
   And that is why Jim dislikes the both of you.   
      
   >   
   >> *THAT* is why Jim   
   >   
   > I didn't have to but I did refund the money to Jim Senetto TWICE a few   
   > years ago.   
      
   No, Donkey, you didn't.   
      
   Use the word correctly, or not at all   
      
      
      
   > That was over $100 I spent on Jim Senetto's bullshit whining.   
   >   
   >>> Lie and deny all you want, that's what happened, Pendragon.   
   >   
   > As the archives prove ^^^   
   >   
   >>>> As for me, there's a world of difference between refusing to participate   
   >   
   > As I did.   
   >   
   >>>> in a flame war, and supporting Pick's claim that I was a paedophile.   
      
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