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   HarryLime to W.Dockery   
   Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering a   
   11 Feb 25 06:35:58   
   
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   everything that has ever been written, tie them all together into one   
   inconceivably massive tome, then tie all of that in with science,   
   quantum theory, the existence of multiverses and... fractals.  IOW: It's   
   a fool's errand in that it's too vast in scope for anyone to accomplish.   
      
   Pickles appears to have always been batshit crazy, and this is exactly   
   the type of project that a psychotic would be drawn to as a means of   
   establishing some sort of order in his perception of reality.   
      
      
   >> we'll   
   >> never know for sure.   
   >   
   > Actually the archives will show, as Pickering explained it a few times.   
      
   Pickles' attempts at explanation were long, rambling, garbled rants that   
   mangled language almost as much as your posts -- only more   
   pretentiously.   
      
   >   
   >> However, based on the data dump of material he   
   >> posted from his bibliography, I'm betting it's pretty close.   
   >   
   > Not really.   
   >   
   >>>  And he rode around on a bicycle   
   >   
   > Not unusual for Oregon I'm told   
   >   
   >>>> mummified cat in his basket   
   >   
   > Lie and misrepresent much, Pendragon?   
      
   Had you not broken my sentence in half, you would have seen that I was   
   calling it unusual that he rode on a bike *with* a mummified cat sitting   
   in a basket that was attached to his handlebars.  And, yes, I think   
   that's more than a bit odd.   
      
      
   >   
   >> and a small filing cabinet dragging from the   
   >>>> rear fender.   
   >   
   > This part I can believe, as I've seen people traveling around with set   
   > ups like that   
   >   
   >> his imaginary wife and children,   
   >   
   > Not true, his late wife actually enjoyed my poetry.   
      
   Pick had several wives.  At least one of them was real.  His 14-year old   
   Israeli wife was a figment of his imagination... as were the two   
   children he claimed to have had with her.   
      
      
   >   
   >>>> Faline's spirit who was in contact with him from the Beyond,   
   >   
   > You don't believe in ghosts?   
      
   Not in that way.   
      
   Ghosts appear when moments overlap (as written in a Pendragonian   
   Proverb).  I believe that all of time is occurring simultaneously within   
   one eternal moment.  In certain altered states of consciousness when the   
   Freudian "censoring agent" of one's Pre-conscious mind has been   
   compromised (this can include such non-drug related causes as stress,   
   fasting, illness, and exhaustion) one's Blakean "Doors of Perception"   
   become expanded to the effect that one perceives images (usually   
   transparent as their moment is superimposed onto the "present" one).  We   
   assume that these are ghosts (disembodied spirits of the dead), when   
   they are really just images from the almost infinite number of moments   
   happening simultaneously with the moments constitute our lives.   
      
      
   >   
   >>  his story   
   >>>> that he draft dodged the Vietnam war by skipping to Canada and Israel   
   >>>> (when he had actually checked himself into a mental institution after   
   >>>> having been caught stealing from Forrest Ackerman...)   
   >   
   > This part of his story was complicated, I never did quite get Ll the   
   > details straight.   
      
   That's because Pickles never admitted to it.   
      
   Based on his letters to Forrest Ackerman, as well as on other sources   
   about Mr. Ackerman, I have been able to piece it all together.  The   
   dates are all in his letters, but I'm not going to pull them up here   
   (especially as they've already been archived).   
      
   The basic story runs as follows: when Pickles was in high school, his   
   father got drunk and climbed in to his mother's bedroom through her   
   window.  His parents were divorced at the time, since his father had a   
   history of physically abusing his wife, either she or her mother (the   
   official story) shot him to death.   
      
   Pickles' mother checked herself into an asylum shortly thereafter.   
      
   Pickles with his father dead and his mother institutionalized, Pickles   
   soon found himself homeless.  He took to bouncing around between homes   
   of friends and relatives in the Los Angeles area.   
      
   It was around this time that he befriended Forrest Ackerman -- at first   
   through fan letters, which led to their meeting in person.  Forrest,   
   feeling sorry for the boy, hired him to catalog all of his horror movie   
   paraphernalia.  Ackerman was known for employing for employing young,   
   pallid, introverted youths as factotums, later thought by several of his   
   friends (in retrospect of the charges of pedophilia leveled against him   
   after his death) to have possibly been homosexual boy toys.  I'm not   
   saying that Pickles was... just reporting what I read.   
      
   In spite of "Uncle Forry" having taken Pick under his wing, Pick was   
   caught attempting to leave Forry's house with two suitcases stuffed full   
   of the movie monster paraphernalia he was being paid by Forry to   
   catalog.  This caused a permanent break to their relationship.  Pickles   
   later attempted to patch things up by apologizing for the theft and   
   telling Forry that he had checked himself into a mental institution for   
   roughly half a year and was now better.  His attempt to make amends   
   failed.  Forry was finished with him (telling a friend that the thing he   
   regretted most in his life had been befriending Stephan Pickering).   
      
   This took place over the course of about 2 1/2 years beginning IIRC in   
   Pick's senior year of high school, or else shortly thereafter.  Pick   
   never went to Canada or to Israel, as his letters from this time (when   
   he'd claimed to have been there) were all posted in and around Los   
   Angeles.  Pick attempted to lie his was out of it with some idiotic   
   story that he sent his letters from Canada to his friends in Los Angeles   
   so that they could mail them from LA to Forry.  Of course this story   
   contradicts the content of the letters when he discusses both the   
   attempted theft and his subsequent institutionalization... but like I   
   said, he was a pathological liar and a psychopath.   
      
      
      
   >>> All basically true but filled with Michael Pendragon lies and   
   >>> misrepresentations.   
   >>   
   >> I don't see how one can represent it in a more positive light   
   >   
   > Okay, you basically covered it well, with just a few corrections from   
   > the.   
   >   
   >>> Stephan Pickering was:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Jewish.  He   
   >>>> self-converted   
   >>>   
   >>> And Dr  David Scheimmer verified the document.   
   >>>   
   >>> Stephan Pickering was a converted Jew, which is valid   
   >>   
   >> His "Shtar" was nothing more than a letter from some phony Rabbi   
   >   
   > Scheimmer says it looks legitimate.   
      
   Is his name David Schwimmer or David Scheimmer?  At the time you were   
   insisting that it was Schwimmer (like the actor from Friends).   
      
   I'm sure it was a real letter from the ersatz Rabbi.  But no Jew would   
   have accepted it as proof of his conversion.   
      
      
   >> founded his own bizarre offshoot of Judaism.   
   >   
   > Another "California religion" I take it   
      
   Definitely.  I'm pretty sure that he was from CA -- but would have to   
   check the archives to confirm it.   
      
   >   
   >>  Neither this Rabbi, or his   
   >> hippy-dippy branch of "Judaism" was accepted by the Conservative or   
   >> Orthodox community.  Even the Reform Jews looked askance at it.   
   >   
   > Still doesn't make it not legitimate.   
      
   Yes it does.  I lived in an Orthodox Jewish community for over 25 years   
   (and am still connected with it).  Orthodox Jews will not accept a   
   Reform conversion, and will only accept a Conservative conversion if it   
   is done in strict accordance with the Orthodox Laws.  I know this very   
   well because I spent over half a year trying to find a Conservative   
   Rabbi who could perform a conversion that the Orthodox community would   
   consider "Halacal" (legitimate/in keeping with Orthodox Law).  Pick's   
   Rabbi was Reform -- and not just Reform, but way out in left field   
      
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