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   > Pickering.>   
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   >>>>> Jim Senetto's homophobia and Antisemitism was the cause, basically.   
   >>>   
   >>> Jim Senetto was constantly making anti gay remarks to Pickering, Zod,   
   >>> even me.   
   >>   
   >> You really don't understand what words like anti-gay homophobic mean.   
   >> Jim made gay jokes about you for the same reasons that I did: your own   
   >> homophobia caused you to launch into a hissyfit on the topic.   
   >   
   > No, I simply corrected the lies and misrepresentations and set the   
   > record straight, and will continue to.   
   >   
   >> Homophobia was your Michael Cooke of 2018   
   >   
   > The name is Michael Cook, no e at the end.   
   >   
   >>> He also joined in the jeering of 'fake Jew" against Stephan Pickering.   
   >   
   > Autocorrect typo fixed.   
   >   
   > Jeering not meeting.   
   >   
   >> if someone is going to cry "Antisemite!" each time   
   >> you say anything about him, it's certainly reasonable to point out that   
   >> he isn't even Jewish.   
   >>   
   >> Again, Pickles claims of being Jewish were a joke. He wanted to be like   
   >> Bob Dylan, but he didn't want to take the time to study with a Rabbi, or   
   >> to undergo a circumcision (who does?). So he bought himself a yarmulke   
   >> and proclaimed himself a Jew.   
   >   
   > People do concert.   
   >   
   > My late friend Dan Barfield converted to becoming a Jew when he married   
   > his first wife Judy, at the request of her parents, for example.   
      
   If it was a Halachal conversion, he did it under the auspices of a   
   Rabbi, had a circumcision and was immersed in a Mikvah.   
      
   If he self-converted like Pickles, it didn't count.   
      
      
   >   
   >>>>>> Well, allow me to refresh your memory. Jim and Stephan first got into   
   >>>>>> flamewars after you formed Team Monkey with him and NastyGoon (NG), a   
   >>>>>> Pickering   
   >>>>>> troll.   
   >   
   > George Dance nailed it ^^^   
      
   There is not team, Donkey. Never has been, never will be   
      
      
   >>> Nancy Gene obsessively stalked Stephan Pickering here from the Bob Dylan   
   >>> newsgroup and began attacking Pickering here.   
   >>   
   >> No one has ever denied that. NancyGene obviously didn't like the man.   
   >   
   >   
   > Or that Nancy Gene stalked Stephan Pickering here to continue her troll   
   > attacks.   
   >   
   >>>>>> where   
   >>>>>> they (NG's preferred pronoun) would write trollpoems about Stephan.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's really the only interest Nancy Gene had at the time, stalking and   
   >>> attacking Stephan Pickering.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> That was almost 10 years ago   
   >   
   > I'm fine with that.   
   >   
   > Let's move on.   
   >   
   >>>>>> result would be Stephan jumping into the Sampler, which would result in   
   >>>>>> JIm   
   >>>>>> flaming him and others (for example, Richard Oakley) also being turned   
   >>>>>> against Jim. I doubt that either Jim nor Stephan realized that you were   
   >>>>>> manipulating them for that outcome.   
   >>>   
   >>> Pendragon sure had the feeble minded Jim Senetto in his control.   
   >>   
   >> Jim isn't here   
   >   
   > Good riddance.   
   >   
   >>>>> Unfortunately, that's exactly what Pendragon's agenda turned out to be.   
   >>>   
   >>> By the time Google Groups went under last year that's all Pendragon wS   
   >>> doing, posting his malicious lies and misrepresentations.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> No... when Google Groups went under, I was busy reestablishing AAPC   
   >   
   > alt.arts.pietry.comments is a Usenet newsgroup, not a Facebook group.   
   >   
   > HERE is where a.a.p.c. is and will remain.   
      
   But what have you done here?   
      
      
   >   
   >>>> The proof of one's agenda is in what one d   
   >>>   
   >>> And you've shown yourself to be a sleazy malicious troll for almost a   
   >>> decade now, Pendragon.   
   >>   
   >> No... created an online community   
   >   
   > Good for you.   
   >   
   > Go there.   
   >   
   > 😏   
   >   
   >> I don't think that's anyone's idea of a "sleazy malicious troll."   
   >   
   > We can show them the Usenet newsgroup archives.   
   >   
   > So what really happened at the 1950s newsgroup for the other regulars to   
   > drive you away so permanently?   
      
   I've told you, Donkey. We started off on the wrong foot, and it   
   escalated from there.   
      
   I left when the discussions became rehashes of material we'd gone over   
   before. I had nothing further to learn from them.   
      
      
   >> What have you done for AAPC?   
   >   
   > Just reading and posting poetry, which is all that's needed or expected.   
      
   Since the only ones posting are you and sometimes Rachel, you haven't   
   got a lot to read.   
      
   >>>> Let us now turn to Matthew 7:16-20   
   >>>> (King James Version):   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns,   
   >>>> or figs of thistles?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree   
   >>>> bringeth forth evil fruit.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree   
   >>>> bring forth good fruit.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast   
   >>>> into the fire.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Shall we compare fruits?   
   >>>   
   >>> I've never been a fan of Michael Pendragon poetry, sorry.   
   >>   
   >> Thank God!   
   >   
   >   
   > Agreed.   
   >   
   > 😏   
   >   
   >>>> I am publishing an AAPC poetry journal featuring award-winning poets.   
   >>>   
   >>> Can you say vanity press?   
   >>   
   >> A vanity press charges a "reading" or "submission" fee.   
   >   
   > Do you pay in contributors copies?   
      
   Almost. I don't receive any money for them. They're sold at cost.   
      
   >>>>>> After Jim and Stephan became engaged in a prolonged flamewar, both on   
   >>>>>> and   
   >>>>>> off the Sampler, the second thing you did was start flooding the group   
   >>>>>> with   
   >>>>>> a nasty, libellous document that NG had written.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh yes, the last resort, flood the newsgroup with your lies and   
   >>> misrepresentations.   
   >>   
   >> There was no such "libellous[sic]" document   
   >   
   > George Dance saw it differently.   
      
   He certainly spelled it differently.   
      
   >   
   >> "There is no 'fact' of 'statutory rape'. 'Morality' -- like   
   >> 'gnosticism', 'god', haKodesh Barukh hu, 'mysticism' -- are NOT   
   >> definable, and for you to keep transposing your stultifying   
   >> proto-fascism onto others is not accepted by me."   
   >>   
   >> "The 'incest taboo' cannot be predicated on known biology, but is a   
   >> human sociopolitical category."   
   >>   
   >> "Shalom & Erev tov, everyone...PaederastDeSock knows nothing of the   
   >> mother of my 2 children now in Yisra'el. Neither does NaziQueene whose   
   >> psychopathy is documented here. He is attempting to equate '14' with   
   >> immaturity, or infancy. This is how he mangles reality. They were adults   
   >> in the eyes of halakhah...which FakeJewMikey is decidedly not."   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>>> Grim times for the poetry newsgroup indeed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Pick didn't belong here.   
   >>>   
   >>> There's no guidelines on who we "allow" to be here.   
   >>>   
   >>> Stephan Pickering knew poetry and made many good poetry posts.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Wrong   
   >   
   > I don't agree.   
   >   
   >> The only poetry he posted here   
   >   
   > Pretty good poetry, as I recall.   
   >   
   >>>> The only poems he "wrote" were   
   >>>   
   >>> Not true, Stephan Pickering has written some interesting poems over the   
   >>> years.   
   >>   
   >> Wrong.   
   >   
   > I don't agree.   
   >   
   >> A.A. Milne wrote some interesting tales about "The House a Pooh   
   >> Corner" which Pickles plagiarized by sticking a "Kosher" in front of   
   >> Piglet's name and claiming as his own on the grounds of "creative   
   >> adaption."   
   >   
   >   
   > That was an interesting work actually.   
      
   The original? Definitely.   
      
   The Kosher Kopy? Not at all.   
      
   >   
   >>>>>> The third thing you did, a month or so of that, when Jim and Stephan   
   >>>>>> were thoroughly   
   >>>>>> engaged with each other, you went deep diving outside the group for   
   >>>>>> information on NAMBLA, and found a quotation from Allan Ginsberg   
      
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