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   >>>>>> ("I have never had sex with anyone under 15"   
   >   
   > The youngest sex partner Allen Ginsberg is known to have was the 18-19   
   > year old man   
      
   14 or 15 according to other sources.   
      
   >>> And later it turns out the youngest sex partner Allen Ginsberg is known   
   >>> to have was an 18-19 year old man.   
   >>   
   >> 14.   
   >   
   > No, he was 18 and then turned 19.   
   >   
   >> It depends on the source.   
   >   
   > There's an interview with the fellow, I don't remember his name right   
   > now.   
   >   
   > I have to walk my dog for a while.   
   >   
   > (To be Continued)   
   >   
   >>>>>> posting here, calling Ginsberg a "pedophile" (or predator);   
   >>>   
   >>> Which, from the evidence, wasn't true, as shown above.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>  and then   
   >>>>>> when others objected to that (like Stephan, Will, or myself), you began   
   >>>>>> calling those people "pedophiles" as well.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's when the bullshit from Pendragon began to get heavy.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> Most likely Jim had condemned Ginsberg as   
   >>>>>>> a child molester   
   >>>   
   >>> Which wasn't actually true, by all evidence.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Ginsberg was a supporter and member of the North American Man/Boy Love   
   >> Association (NAMBLA), a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization   
   >> in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws and   
   >> legalize sexual relations between adults and children.[124][citation   
   >> needed] Saying that he joined the organization "in defense of free   
   >> speech",[125] Ginsberg stated: "Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics,   
   >> witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ...   
   >> I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too—everybody does, who has a   
   >> little humanity".[126] In 1994, Ginsberg appeared in a documentary on   
   >> NAMBLA called Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys (playing on the gay male   
   >> slang term 'chickenhawk'), in which he read a "graphic ode to   
   >> youth".[124] He read his poem "Sweet Boy, Gimme Yr Ass" from the book   
   >> Mind Breaths.[127]   
   >>   
   >> In her 2002 book Heartbreak, Andrea Dworkin claimed Ginsberg had   
   >> ulterior motives for allying with NAMBLA:   
   >> In 1982, newspapers reported in huge headlines that the Supreme Court   
   >> had ruled child pornography illegal. I was thrilled. I knew Allen would   
   >> not be. I did think he was a civil libertarian. But, in fact, he was a   
   >> pedophile. He did not belong to the North American Man/Boy Love   
   >> Association out of some mad, abstract conviction that its voice had to   
   >> be heard. He meant it. I take this from what Allen said directly to me,   
   >> not from some inference I made. He was exceptionally aggressive about   
   >> his right to fuck children and his constant pursuit of underage   
   >> boys.[128]   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> and Pickering (who worshipped Ginsberg) spazzed.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That is a fair summary of what I just said, though you left out that you   
   >>>>>> (and Jim)   
   >>>>>> were calling Stephan a child molester as well. No one appreciates being   
   >>>>>> called names like that by cowardly trolls on the internet.   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, I remember that.   
   >>>   
   >>> At that point Pendragon and Senetto were trying any dirty trick to drive   
   >>> Stephan Pickering away from this newsgroup.   
   >>>   
   >>> And so it goes.   
   >>   
   >> Pickles claimed to have deflowered two 14-year old girls.   
   >>   
   >> Whether he actually did so is unknown, as he has been unequivocally   
   >> shown to be a pathological liar.   
   >>   
   >> Nevertheless, according to his own admission, he was a child molester   
   >> and statutory rapist.   
   >>   
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   >   
   > (To be considered)   
      
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