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   W.Dockery to HarryLime   
   Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering a   
   11 Feb 25 06:47:20   
   
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   > archetypes form the basis of all religions, philosophies, fairytales,   
   > myths, poetry and even popular fiction, one would have to read   
   > everything that has ever been written, tie them all together into one   
   > inconceivably massive tome, then tie all of that in with science,   
   > quantum theory, the existence of multiverses and... fractals.  IOW: It's   
   > a fool's errand in that it's too vast in scope for anyone to accomplish.   
   >   
   > Pickles appears to have always been batshit crazy, and this is exactly   
   > the type of project that a psychotic would be drawn to as a means of   
   > establishing some sort of order in his perception of reality.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> we'll   
   >>> never know for sure.   
   >>   
   >> Actually the archives will show, as Pickering explained it a few times.   
   >   
   > Pickles' attempts at explanation were long, rambling, garbled rants that   
   > mangled language almost as much as your posts -- only more   
   > pretentiously.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> However, based on the data dump of material he   
   >>> posted from his bibliography, I'm betting it's pretty close.   
   >>   
   >> Not really.   
   >>   
   >>>>  And he rode around on a bicycle   
   >>   
   >> Not unusual for Oregon I'm told   
   >>   
   >>>>> mummified cat in his basket   
   >>   
   >> Lie and misrepresent much, Pendragon?   
   >   
   > Had you not broken my sentence in half, you would have seen that I was   
   > calling it unusual that he rode on a bike *with* a mummified cat sitting   
   > in a basket that was attached to his handlebars.  And, yes, I think   
   > that's more than a bit odd.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> and a small filing cabinet dragging from the   
   >>>>> rear fender.   
   >>   
   >> This part I can believe, as I've seen people traveling around with set   
   >> ups like that   
   >>   
   >>> his imaginary wife and children,   
   >>   
   >> Not true, his late wife actually enjoyed my poetry.   
   >   
   > Pick had several wives.  At least one of them was real.  His 14-year old   
   > Israeli wife was a figment of his imagination... as were the two   
   > children he claimed to have had with her.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>>> Faline's spirit who was in contact with him from the Beyond,   
   >>   
   >> You don't believe in ghosts?   
   >   
   > Not in that way.   
   >   
   > Ghosts appear when moments overlap (as written in a Pendragonian   
   > Proverb).  I believe that all of time is occurring simultaneously within   
   > one eternal moment.  In certain altered states of consciousness when the   
   > Freudian "censoring agent" of one's Pre-conscious mind has been   
   > compromised (this can include such non-drug related causes as stress,   
   > fasting, illness, and exhaustion) one's Blakean "Doors of Perception"   
   > become expanded to the effect that one perceives images (usually   
   > transparent as their moment is superimposed onto the "present" one).  We   
   > assume that these are ghosts (disembodied spirits of the dead), when   
   > they are really just images from the almost infinite number of moments   
   > happening simultaneously with the moments constitute our lives.   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>  his story   
   >>>>> that he draft dodged the Vietnam war by skipping to Canada and Israel   
   >>>>> (when he had actually checked himself into a mental institution after   
   >>>>> having been caught stealing from Forrest Ackerman...)   
   >>   
   >> This part of his story was complicated, I never did quite get Ll the   
   >> details straight.   
   >   
   > That's because Pickles never admitted to it.   
   >   
   > Based on his letters to Forrest Ackerman, as well as on other sources   
   > about Mr. Ackerman, I have been able to piece it all together.  The   
   > dates are all in his letters, but I'm not going to pull them up here   
   > (especially as they've already been archived).   
   >   
   > The basic story runs as follows: when Pickles was in high school, his   
   > father got drunk and climbed in to his mother's bedroom through her   
   > window.  His parents were divorced at the time, since his father had a   
   > history of physically abusing his wife, either she or her mother (the   
   > official story) shot him to death.   
   >   
   > Pickles' mother checked herself into an asylum shortly thereafter.   
   >   
   > Pickles with his father dead and his mother institutionalized, Pickles   
   > soon found himself homeless.  He took to bouncing around between homes   
   > of friends and relatives in the Los Angeles area.   
   >   
   > It was around this time that he befriended Forrest Ackerman -- at first   
   > through fan letters, which led to their meeting in person.  Forrest,   
   > feeling sorry for the boy, hired him to catalog all of his horror movie   
   > paraphernalia.  Ackerman was known for employing for employing young,   
   > pallid, introverted youths as factotums, later thought by several of his   
   > friends (in retrospect of the charges of pedophilia leveled against him   
   > after his death) to have possibly been homosexual boy toys.  I'm not   
   > saying that Pickles was... just reporting what I read.   
   >   
   > In spite of "Uncle Forry" having taken Pick under his wing, Pick was   
   > caught attempting to leave Forry's house with two suitcases stuffed full   
   > of the movie monster paraphernalia he was being paid by Forry to   
   > catalog.  This caused a permanent break to their relationship.  Pickles   
   > later attempted to patch things up by apologizing for the theft and   
   > telling Forry that he had checked himself into a mental institution for   
   > roughly half a year and was now better.  His attempt to make amends   
   > failed.  Forry was finished with him (telling a friend that the thing he   
   > regretted most in his life had been befriending Stephan Pickering).   
   >   
   > This took place over the course of about 2 1/2 years beginning IIRC in   
   > Pick's senior year of high school, or else shortly thereafter.  Pick   
   > never went to Canada or to Israel, as his letters from this time (when   
   > he'd claimed to have been there) were all posted in and around Los   
   > Angeles.  Pick attempted to lie his was out of it with some idiotic   
   > story that he sent his letters from Canada to his friends in Los Angeles   
   > so that they could mail them from LA to Forry.  Of course this story   
   > contradicts the content of the letters when he discusses both the   
   > attempted theft and his subsequent institutionalization... but like I   
   > said, he was a pathological liar and a psychopath.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>>> All basically true but filled with Michael Pendragon lies and   
   >>>> misrepresentations.   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't see how one can represent it in a more positive light   
   >>   
   >> Okay, you basically covered it well, with just a few corrections from   
   >> the.   
   >>   
   >>>> Stephan Pickering was:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Jewish.  He   
   >>>>> self-converted   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And Dr  David Scheimmer verified the document.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Stephan Pickering was a converted Jew, which is valid   
   >>>   
   >>> His "Shtar" was nothing more than a letter from some phony Rabbi   
   >>   
   >> Scheimmer says it looks legitimate.   
   >   
   > Is his name David Schwimmer or David Scheimmer?  At the time you were   
   > insisting that it was Schwimmer (like the actor from Friends).   
   >   
   > I'm sure it was a real letter from the ersatz Rabbi.  But no Jew would   
   > have accepted it as proof of his conversion.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> founded his own bizarre offshoot of Judaism.   
   >>   
   >> Another "California religion" I take it   
   >   
   > Definitely.  I'm pretty sure that he was from CA -- but would have to   
   > check the archives to confirm it.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>>  Neither this Rabbi, or his   
   >>> hippy-dippy branch of "Judaism" was accepted by the Conservative or   
   >>> Orthodox community.  Even the Reform Jews looked askance at it.   
   >>   
   >> Still doesn't make it not legitimate.   
   >   
   > Yes it does.  I lived in an Orthodox Jewish community for over 25 years   
   > (and am still connected with it).  Orthodox Jews will not accept a   
      
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