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   >>>>>>>>>>>> "In fact, Karla's oft-quoted adage aside, one can *never* fully   
   separate   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> the two.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, all of the characters in any author's fictional   
   novel are   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> going to represent some aspect of the author.  Every poem stems   
   from its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> author's imagination... regardless of what external persons and/or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> events might have inspired it.  Every literary work is similar to   
   a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> dream construct in that regard; and like a dream construct, can be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> analyzed by a psychologist, a literary critic, or even the average   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> reader.  Since "My Father's House" was based to a large extent on   
   your   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> own childhood experiences, it literally begs for a    
   sychoanalytical   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> reading."   
   >>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You dispute the wisdom of the mighty Karla Rogers?   
   >>   
   >>>>>>>>> I'm here for the poetry.   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> You're only here to lie and misrepresent, Harry.   
   >>   
   >>> While I've been discussing the poetry of Robert Creeley for a   
   >>> week now.   
   >>   
   >> You've made very few attempts to discuss anyone's poetry over the years   
   >   
   > No, I've discussed dozens of poems and poets here over more than two   
   > decades.   
      
   First off, having discussed dozens of poems and poets over a 20 year   
   period in a poetry group, is extremely lame.   
      
   Second: Your "discussions" amount to little more than meaningless   
   generalizations ("Great poem), or paragraphs copy/pasted from Wikipedia.   
      
   About 10 years ago (if not longer), I challenged you to pick a Bukowski   
   poem of you choice, and write at least one paragraph in which you   
   provide a critical analysis of it.   
      
   For the first 5 years, you claimed to be "working on" this paragraph,   
   and kept promising that it was coming soon.  Eventually, you gave up on   
   the it altogether.   
      
   You still have not produced it.   
      
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