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   >> depression, they should be able to understand the metaphoric   
   >> similarities between one's memories (experienced events of each day) and   
   >> daily newspapers (a report of events that occurred in one's local   
   >> community and the world at large on a day by day basis).   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Both similies are good, by NancyGene's is more original: the idea of   
   >>>>>> wasted time piling up on one is a common theme of poetry, whereas being   
   >>>>>> weighed down by the past is not.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> First, I didn't say Creeley was using "The days" to stand for wasted   
   >>>>> time. Saying "Wasted time piles up like unread newspapers" wouldn't make   
   >>>>> sense because the tenor (wasted time) does not pile up.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is no point in your discussing what Creeley might have been   
   >>>> saying, because no one (Will, NancyGene, and I) can find a copy of his   
   >>>> supposed poem.   
   >>>   
   >>> We're only discussing one line of each poem. I got his symbolism merely   
   >>> by a reading of one line, and saw it as a good simile. I also got   
   >>> NastyGoon's simile by the same reading of one line, and on reflection   
   >>> see it as a bad simile.   
   >>   
   >> You see what you want to see, George.   
   >   
   > Ho, hum.   
      
   I take it you receive this criticism quite frequently?   
      
      
   >>>>> Second, if one wanted to say that their memories were oppressive (as you   
   >>>>> say NG is trying to express with their simile) doesn't make sense   
   >>>>> either, because (in addition to not normally stacking up in piles),   
   >>>>> "read newspapers" aren't oppressive either.   
   >>>   
   >>>> I sure as hell felt oppressive feelings (claustrophobia, suffocation)   
   >>>> when entering her house through the yellowing stacks.  Old newspapers   
   >>>> have a distinctive odor as well, which lends to the feelings of   
   >>>> suffocation.   
   >>>   
   >>> Your Great Aunt's house? Well, assuming that you didn't just make her up   
   >>> to defend your "colleague's" simile, I'll point out that readers who   
   >>> didn't have a Great Aunt like yours would have no idea why newspapers   
   >>> were oppressive. They'd see it as a bad simile which ruins the line,   
   >>> just as I do.   
   >>   
   >> And, again, I'm willing to venture that they immediately pick up on the   
   >> similarity between stacks of *read* newspapers and memories.  One   
   >> doesn't need to have had a clinically depressed Great Aunt to recognize   
   >> that.   
   >   
   > Well, the only way to tell what other readers will think of NastyGoon's   
   > line is if their poem gets any other readers. Good luck to them.   
      
   It has, George.  It received positive feedback in the Official AAPC FB   
   Group.   
      
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