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   W.Dockery to HarryLime   
   Re: Robert Creeley's poetry (2/2)   
   13 Feb 25 21:27:11   
   
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   >>>>> which is even remotely similar to the line George Dance quoted.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Since "collected" usually implies "as complete as possible,"   
      
   Although Robert Creeley certainly had the right to omit certain poems if   
   he wanted to, and possibly did.   
      
   >>>> So you're "concluding" the same thing your online friend was "assuming"   
   >>>> yesterday. My, my, who'd have expected that?   
   >>>   
   >>> If I wanted to accuse someone of plagiarism, I would provide proof.   
      
   I don't think any actual accusations have been made yet.   
      
   >> Yet you and your NastyGoon "colleague" had no trouble accusing me of   
   >> forgery (a far worse accusation) on as little proof. So I have to say   
   >> that I don't believe you.   
   >   
   > IIRC the first plagiarism charge leveled against you occurred long   
   > before either NancyGene or I became a part of the group.   
   >   
   > You had posted an obscure poem by Leonard Cohen, without identifying it   
   > (asking only something to the effect of "What do you think of this   
   > poem?").  In context of the discussion in which it appeared; one of the   
   > members had just negatively critiqued one of your poems, and you made it   
   > seem as if the Cohen poem was being offered as another of your original   
   > works.   
   >   
   > Whether you stole it or not is moot, as you didn't specifically   
   > attribute it to your hand.   
   >   
   > I have a vague impression that you may have posted some other poem   
   > without attribution as well, after NancyGene and I had joined.  I could   
   > be mistaken on that count, and willingly admit as much.   
   >   
   > Are either of these incidents what you are referring to?   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Since you repeatedly refuse to do so, I can only conclude that no such   
   >>> proof exists.   
   >>   
   >> As I've just noted: since you failed to find the line poem I cited, you   
   >> (and your Nasty "colleague") have concluded that I forged it.   
      
   And did so before all the evidence came in.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
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