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|    W.Dockery to HarryLime    |
|    Re: Robert Creeley's poetry (2/2)    |
|    13 Feb 25 21:27:11    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>>>> which is even remotely similar to the line George Dance quoted.       >>>>>       >>>>> Since "collected" usually implies "as complete as possible,"              Although Robert Creeley certainly had the right to omit certain poems if       he wanted to, and possibly did.              >>>> So you're "concluding" the same thing your online friend was "assuming"       >>>> yesterday. My, my, who'd have expected that?       >>>       >>> If I wanted to accuse someone of plagiarism, I would provide proof.              I don't think any actual accusations have been made yet.              >> Yet you and your NastyGoon "colleague" had no trouble accusing me of       >> forgery (a far worse accusation) on as little proof. So I have to say       >> that I don't believe you.       >       > IIRC the first plagiarism charge leveled against you occurred long       > before either NancyGene or I became a part of the group.       >       > You had posted an obscure poem by Leonard Cohen, without identifying it       > (asking only something to the effect of "What do you think of this       > poem?"). In context of the discussion in which it appeared; one of the       > members had just negatively critiqued one of your poems, and you made it       > seem as if the Cohen poem was being offered as another of your original       > works.       >       > Whether you stole it or not is moot, as you didn't specifically       > attribute it to your hand.       >       > I have a vague impression that you may have posted some other poem       > without attribution as well, after NancyGene and I had joined. I could       > be mistaken on that count, and willingly admit as much.       >       > Are either of these incidents what you are referring to?       >       >       >>> Since you repeatedly refuse to do so, I can only conclude that no such       >>> proof exists.       >>       >> As I've just noted: since you failed to find the line poem I cited, you       >> (and your Nasty "colleague") have concluded that I forged it.              And did so before all the evidence came in.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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