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|    NancyGene to HarryLime    |
|    Re: Will Dockery's "Shattered" (3/4)    |
|    17 Feb 25 03:11:18    |
      [continued from previous message]              > I'm guessing that you were stoned out of your senses when you wrote       > this, and that it all made perfect sense to you at the time?              He did the best drugs he could score on the playgrounds.       >       > Are you telling the unidentified "you" (whose life had passed --       > implying that they had died) to wait?              "Wait for Me" - Hall and Oates              >       > Are you telling yourself to wait -- as your train of thought jumps       > tracks?              "Then I'm willing to wait for it.       I'm willing to wait for it." - "Hamilton"       >       > Or are you telling the reader, who you haven't been addressing, to wait?              "Wait Mister Postman"              >       > And why use "portion" rather than "part"? It just sounds false (like a       > child attempting to use "big words").              Dockery was merely a 22-year-old, just entering the 5th grade. He knew       few words.       >       > And just what part of what finish are you referring to?              He meant Finnish.       >       > Everything has suddenly become real (even though you had given no       > previous indication that it was false, and even though you've failed to       > even hint at what "real" and "everything" relate to), is meant to be a       > false finish that never comes (and is, therefore, not a finish)?              Yes.       >       > That would sound vaguely profound if it actually had any intelligible       > meaning.              You have words and music. Do you need meaning too?              >       >>>>>>       >>>>>> Now that the lights are going so low       >>>>>> the dimming glow       >>>>>> falls on my ego       >       > We have now arrived at the point in a Will Donkey poem, when I'm       > inwardly screaming out "SHOOT ME NOW!!!"              That's when his teachers committed mass suicide.       >       > How does the dimming glow of some lights affect your speaker's ego?       > Does he feel inconsequential at dusk?              He is rhyming three consecutive lines. It is vaguely reminiscent of       "Leggo my Eggo." The "so low" also refers to George Dance.              > u       >>>>>> now that I'm falling       >>>>>> into my morning       >       > So your speaker is still lying "here" (or, perhaps, "there") waking up       > from contemplating returning to someone or something, and the lights       > have suddenly dimmed? Was there a brown out?              He's also falling up or down. Maybe into?       >       >       >>>>>> here I am gazing into those       >>>>>> reflector eyes       >       > Is the (supposedly deceased) "you" he's been addressing actually lying       > on the floor with him (not having "passed by" him at all)?              Robot.       >       >>>>>> morning light       >>>>>> is blasting my head clean too.       >       > "Too"? Too implies that he'd already told us about something else that       > the morning light was blasting clean.              Why does his head need to be cleaned? We thought that was what the       Brillo hair was for?       >       > So... basically, the speaker had gotten drunk and/or stoned, passed out       > either here or there, woke up contemplating whether he should return to       > someone or something, rambled incoherently about how his life (or the       > life of someone else) passed him by... until the morning lights dimmed,       > blasting his head clean.       >       > Got it. NOT!              And fell down.       >       >>>>>> Morning's clearer       >>>>>> I've been forgetting it.       >       > Donkey, Donkey, Donkey [shakes head], always with the pronouns. The       > speaker has been forgetting what?              Forgot to put his pants on?       >       > And how can morning be "clearer" when it had never been described as       > being "unclear"?       He put his glasses on?              >       >>>>>>       >>>>>> Your thoughts seem to stream       >>>>>> like a highway       >       > Light streams. Highways don't.              He is rhyming "seem" and "stream." So unexpected!       >       > Who is the speaker addressing? Himself? The morning? The unidentified       > person whose "uncaused" and "untraced" life had passed him by?              "All or nothing at all."       >       >       >>>>>> dimming lights seem to streak       >>>>>> like hitch-hikers.       >       > "Hitchhikers" is not hyphenated.       >       > Why would morning lights be dimming again? Usually the ambient light       > increases as the sun continues its ascent.              The laws of physics work differently in Shadowville.              >       > And why are the hitchhikers streaking? I realize this was written in       > the 70s when streaking as still a thing, but I don't believe that the       > two (hitchhiking and streaking) went together.              "Sweet Hitchhiker       We could make music at the Greasy King       Sweet Hitchhiker,       Won't you ride on my fast machine?" - Creedence Clearwater Revival       >       > And even if there were dim streaks of light in your "here" (or,       > possibly, "there"), how does dim light recall a hitchhiker (naked or       > dressed)?              "A thumb goes up, a car goes by       It's nearly one A.M. And here am I       Hitchin' a ride, hitchin' a ride" - Vanity Fare       >       >>>>>> When does this dream end?       >       > WHEN DOES THIS GODAWFUL POEM END???       It ends when it ends, and not a pile of seconds before.       >       > I'm not joking, Donkey. A poem needs to grab, and hold, the reader's       > interest. Since I have no idea what your poem is about (other than your       > waking up still feeling the effects of the previous night's drugs), I       > have *ZERO* interest in it.              It should have been thrown "at" the floor in English class. Big f'n F       grade.       >       > I don't know who is speaking. I don't know who he's speaking to. I       > don't know what he's prattling on about. Hell, I don't even know if       > he's here or there.              "But who knows where or when?"       >       > And, as a consequence, I cannot invest any interest (much less feelings)       > into his (non-) story.              The writing is beyond bad and not something anyone should be proud to       show others.       >       >>>>>> When do I get on up the road?       >       > "Get on up the road"? That's not even decent backwoods slang. When       > speaking about reaching a destination (literal, spiritual, etc.), one       > says "down" the road. "Up" the road implies back to the start of your       > journey.              Unless one is lying by the side of the road, and the asphalt is quite       thick. Didn't the speaker fall down in previous stanzas?       >       >>>>>> The light sped out       >>>>>> like a fire-fly       >       > "firefly" is not hyphenated.       >       > So the dimming, streaking, hitchhiking light is now a hastily departing       > firefly?              Fireflies are very slow fliers.       >       > Pick ONE metaphor and stick with it.              That's like asking Mr. Dockery to stick with one pronoun.       >       >       >>>>>> like gravestones       >>>>>> never noticed       >>>>>> never seen.       >       > OMFG!       >       > Now the dimming, streaking, hitchhiking, hastily departing firefly like       > light has turned into unseen gravestones???              And they are up on the road!       >       > I can't wait to discover what the morph into next.       >       >>>>>> Like marbles       >>>>>> spilling from shattered minds.       >       > There it is!       >       > They went from dimming, to streaking, to hitchhiking, to hastily       > departing fireflies, to unseen gravestone, to marbles spilling from       > shattered minds.              How many people can relate to marbles spilling out of minds? Lost their       marbles? That's a literal interpretation that is typical of immature,       cliched thinking.              >       > And this is the end of the poem?       >       > What was the topic? The speaker lying in the "Here" or "There"? The       > unknown person he was addressing? Someone's life having passed -- or       > passed by? Contemplating returning to... something? Or the bizarre       > transformation of the morning light?       >       > I would like to say that this is bad, even for you, but it's really just       > par for the course as Donkey poems go: incoherent, incompetently       > written, and terminally uninteresting.       >              Did you note the title of the poem, as shown in the Carverlite Crappage?        "SHATT, RD" - The title describes the writing perfectly!              --              --              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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