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|    W.Dockery to NancyGene    |
|    Re: Shattered / Will Dockery (comments &    |
|    17 Feb 25 16:50:45    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> This is just another way of saying "passed me by." If a line doesn't       >> add anything to the poem, you should cut it.       >       > Perhaps the whole poem should be cut? Not just perhaps.       >>       >>       >>>>>>> everything here now is real       >>       >> WFT?       >>       >> Was everything not real a moment ago?       >>       >> More importantly, *what* has become real?       >       > "The Real Housewives of Atlanta?"       >>       >>       >>>>>>> so wait.       >>>>>>> That portion of the finish       >>>>>>> never comes.       >>       >>       >> I'm guessing that you were stoned out of your senses when you wrote       >> this, and that it all made perfect sense to you at the time?       >       > He did the best drugs he could score on the playgrounds.       >>       >> Are you telling the unidentified "you" (whose life had passed --       >> implying that they had died) to wait?       >       > "Wait for Me" - Hall and Oates       >       >>       >> Are you telling yourself to wait -- as your train of thought jumps       >> tracks?       >       > "Then I'm willing to wait for it.       > I'm willing to wait for it." - "Hamilton"       >>       >> Or are you telling the reader, who you haven't been addressing, to wait?       >       > "Wait Mister Postman"       >       >>       >> And why use "portion" rather than "part"? It just sounds false (like a       >> child attempting to use "big words").       >       > Dockery was merely a 22-year-old, just entering the 5th grade. He knew       > few words.       >>       >> And just what part of what finish are you referring to?       >       > He meant Finnish.       >>       >> Everything has suddenly become real (even though you had given no       >> previous indication that it was false, and even though you've failed to       >> even hint at what "real" and "everything" relate to), is meant to be a       >> false finish that never comes (and is, therefore, not a finish)?       >       > Yes.       >>       >> That would sound vaguely profound if it actually had any intelligible       >> meaning.       >       > You have words and music. Do you need meaning too?       >       >>       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>> Now that the lights are going so low       >>>>>>> the dimming glow       >>>>>>> falls on my ego       >>       >> We have now arrived at the point in a Will Donkey poem, when I'm       >> inwardly screaming out "SHOOT ME NOW!!!"       >       > That's when his teachers committed mass suicide.       >>       >> How does the dimming glow of some lights affect your speaker's ego?       >> Does he feel inconsequential at dusk?       >       > He is rhyming three consecutive lines. It is vaguely reminiscent of       > "Leggo my Eggo." The "so low" also refers to George Dance.       >       >> u       >>>>>>> now that I'm falling       >>>>>>> into my morning       >>       >> So your speaker is still lying "here" (or, perhaps, "there") waking up       >> from contemplating returning to someone or something, and the lights       >> have suddenly dimmed? Was there a brown out?       >       > He's also falling up or down. Maybe into?       >>       >>       >>>>>>> here I am gazing into those       >>>>>>> reflector eyes       >>       >> Is the (supposedly deceased) "you" he's been addressing actually lying       >> on the floor with him (not having "passed by" him at all)?       >       > Robot.       >>       >>>>>>> morning light       >>>>>>> is blasting my head clean too.       >>       >> "Too"? Too implies that he'd already told us about something else that       >> the morning light was blasting clean.       >       > Why does his head need to be cleaned? We thought that was what the       > Brillo hair was for?       >>       >> So... basically, the speaker had gotten drunk and/or stoned, passed out       >> either here or there, woke up contemplating whether he should return to       >> someone or something, rambled incoherently about how his life (or the       >> life of someone else) passed him by... until the morning lights dimmed,       >> blasting his head clean.       >>       >> Got it. NOT!       >       > And fell down.       >>       >>>>>>> Morning's clearer       >>>>>>> I've been forgetting it.       >>       >> Donkey, Donkey, Donkey [shakes head], always with the pronouns. The       >> speaker has been forgetting what?       >       > Forgot to put his pants on?       >>       >> And how can morning be "clearer" when it had never been described as       >> being "unclear"?       > He put his glasses on?       >       >>       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>> Your thoughts seem to stream       >>>>>>> like a highway       >>       >> Light streams. Highways don't.       >       > He is rhyming "seem" and "stream." So unexpected!       >>       >> Who is the speaker addressing? Himself? The morning? The unidentified       >> person whose "uncaused" and "untraced" life had passed him by?       >       > "All or nothing at all."       >>       >>       >>>>>>> dimming lights seem to streak       >>>>>>> like hitch-hikers.       >>       >> "Hitchhikers" is not hyphenated.       >>       >> Why would morning lights be dimming again? Usually the ambient light       >> increases as the sun continues its ascent.       >       > The laws of physics work differently in Shadowville.       >       >>       >> And why are the hitchhikers streaking? I realize this was written in       >> the 70s when streaking as still a thing, but I don't believe that the       >> two (hitchhiking and streaking) went together.       >       > "Sweet Hitchhiker       > We could make music at the Greasy King       > Sweet Hitchhiker,       > Won't you ride on my fast machine?" - Creedence Clearwater Revival       >>       >> And even if there were dim streaks of light in your "here" (or,       >> possibly, "there"), how does dim light recall a hitchhiker (naked or       >> dressed)?       >       > "A thumb goes up, a car goes by       > It's nearly one A.M. And here am I       > Hitchin' a ride, hitchin' a ride" - Vanity Fare       >>       >>>>>>> When does this dream end?       >>       >> WHEN DOES THIS GODAWFUL POEM END???       > It ends when it ends, and not a pile of seconds before.       >>       >> I'm not joking, Donkey. A poem needs to grab, and hold, the reader's       >> interest. Since I have no idea what your poem is about (other than your       >> waking up still feeling the effects of the previous night's drugs), I       >> have *ZERO* interest in it.       >       > It should have been thrown "at" the floor in English class. Big f'n F       > grade.       >>       >> I don't know who is speaking. I don't know who he's speaking to. I       >> don't know what he's prattling on about. Hell, I don't even know if       >> he's here or there.       >       > "But who knows where or when?"       >>       >> And, as a consequence, I cannot invest any interest (much less feelings)       >> into his (non-) story.       >       > The writing is beyond bad and not something anyone should be proud to       > show others.       >>       >>>>>>> When do I get on up the road?       >>       >> "Get on up the road"? That's not even decent backwoods slang. When       >> speaking about reaching a destination (literal, spiritual, etc.), one       >> says "down" the road. "Up" the road implies back to the start of your       >> journey.       >       > Unless one is lying by the side of the road, and the asphalt is quite       > thick. Didn't the speaker fall down in previous stanzas?       >>       >>>>>>> The light sped out       >>>>>>> like a fire-fly       >>       >> "firefly" is not hyphenated.       >>       >> So the dimming, streaking, hitchhiking light is now a hastily departing       >> firefly?       >       > Fireflies are very slow fliers.       >>       >> Pick ONE metaphor and stick with it.       >       > That's like asking Mr. Dockery to stick with one pronoun.       >>       >>       >>>>>>> like gravestones       >>>>>>> never noticed       >>>>>>> never seen.       >>       >> OMFG!       >>       >> Now the dimming, streaking, hitchhiking, hastily departing firefly like       >> light has turned into unseen gravestones???       >       > And they are up on the road!       >>       >> I can't wait to discover what the morph into next.       >>       >>>>>>> Like marbles       >>>>>>> spilling from shattered minds.       >>       >> There it is!       >>       >> They went from dimming, to streaking, to hitchhiking, to hastily       >> departing fireflies, to unseen gravestone, to marbles spilling from       >> shattered minds.       >       > How many people can relate to marbles spilling out of minds? Lost their       > marbles? That's a literal interpretation that is typical of immature,       > cliched thinking.              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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