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   W.Dockery to George J. Dance   
   Re: Robert Creeley's poetry (2/2)   
   18 Feb 25 20:08:50   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >> IIRC the first plagiarism charge leveled against you occurred long   
   >> before either NancyGene or I became a part of the group.   
   >   
   > I see you're trying to change the subject again. If you want, I can open   
   > a discussion of this new one on a different thread. Let me know.   
   >   
   > snip   
   >   
   >> I have a vague impression that you may have posted some other poem   
   >> without attribution as well, after NancyGene and I had joined.  I could   
   >> be mistaken on that count, and willingly admit as much.   
   >   
   > I remember NastyGoon and you accusing me of plagiarism for posting a   
   > cento, and giving the source information on the thread in another post   
   > rather than on the poem itself. I also remember NastyGoon accusing a lot   
   > of other people of plagiarism - as I say, that was their schtick.   
   >   
   >> Are either of these incidents what you are referring to?   
   >   
   > No, I'm referring to your accusation, in this thread, that I wrote   
   > something and tried to pass it off as Robert Creeley's work.   
   >   
   >>>> Since you repeatedly refuse to do so, I can only conclude that no such   
   >>>> proof exists.   
   >>>   
   >>> As I've just noted: since you failed to find the line [and title of the]   
   >>> poem I cited, you   
   >>> (and your Nasty "colleague") have concluded that I forged it.   
   >>   
   >> No, George.  I came to that conclusion based on 10 years of having   
   >> interacted with you here.   
   >   
   > You concluded that I forged it based on 10 years of seeing me forging   
   > poems? Oh, do please give me one example.   
   >   
   >> At best, you have admitted that you only know about the poem from   
   >> hearsay   
   >   
   > I did not, Lying Michael.   
   >   
   > , yet have quoted it from someone else's memory,   
   >   
   > Nor did I say that I quoted it from another person's memory, Lying   
   > Michael.   
   >   
   >> and accused   
   >> NancyGene of having copied it.   
   >   
   > Nor did I accuse NastyGoon of having "copied" it (since it was not   
   > copied, but changed), Lying Michael.   
   >   
   > That's three lies in a row from you, Lying Michael, all of them attempts   
   > by you to change the meaning of something I did tell you. Isn't that   
   > what you were pre-emptively accusing me of doing in this thread just   
   > today? Why, yes, it is. So go ahead and accuse me of playing "IKYABWAI"   
   > again.   
   >   
   >> Do you really think that's any better than if you had actually forged   
   >> it?   
   >   
   > I think the worst thing one can accuse another writer of s forgery. So   
   > you go on  milking that charge; you still have over a week till the book   
   > arrives.   
      
   Again, looking forward to seeing the Robert Creeley original as   
   published.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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