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|    W.Dockery to George J. Dance    |
|    Re: Robert Creeley's poetry (2/2)    |
|    18 Feb 25 20:08:50    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> IIRC the first plagiarism charge leveled against you occurred long       >> before either NancyGene or I became a part of the group.       >       > I see you're trying to change the subject again. If you want, I can open       > a discussion of this new one on a different thread. Let me know.       >       > snip       >       >> I have a vague impression that you may have posted some other poem       >> without attribution as well, after NancyGene and I had joined. I could       >> be mistaken on that count, and willingly admit as much.       >       > I remember NastyGoon and you accusing me of plagiarism for posting a       > cento, and giving the source information on the thread in another post       > rather than on the poem itself. I also remember NastyGoon accusing a lot       > of other people of plagiarism - as I say, that was their schtick.       >       >> Are either of these incidents what you are referring to?       >       > No, I'm referring to your accusation, in this thread, that I wrote       > something and tried to pass it off as Robert Creeley's work.       >       >>>> Since you repeatedly refuse to do so, I can only conclude that no such       >>>> proof exists.       >>>       >>> As I've just noted: since you failed to find the line [and title of the]       >>> poem I cited, you       >>> (and your Nasty "colleague") have concluded that I forged it.       >>       >> No, George. I came to that conclusion based on 10 years of having       >> interacted with you here.       >       > You concluded that I forged it based on 10 years of seeing me forging       > poems? Oh, do please give me one example.       >       >> At best, you have admitted that you only know about the poem from       >> hearsay       >       > I did not, Lying Michael.       >       > , yet have quoted it from someone else's memory,       >       > Nor did I say that I quoted it from another person's memory, Lying       > Michael.       >       >> and accused       >> NancyGene of having copied it.       >       > Nor did I accuse NastyGoon of having "copied" it (since it was not       > copied, but changed), Lying Michael.       >       > That's three lies in a row from you, Lying Michael, all of them attempts       > by you to change the meaning of something I did tell you. Isn't that       > what you were pre-emptively accusing me of doing in this thread just       > today? Why, yes, it is. So go ahead and accuse me of playing "IKYABWAI"       > again.       >       >> Do you really think that's any better than if you had actually forged       >> it?       >       > I think the worst thing one can accuse another writer of s forgery. So       > you go on milking that charge; you still have over a week till the book       > arrives.              Again, looking forward to seeing the Robert Creeley original as       published.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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