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|    Re: George Dance experiments with artifi    |
|    26 Feb 25 19:06:49    |
      [continued from previous message]              >>> imperfect, become the songs of the nations."       >>>       >>> I believed this before I read Emerson over a quarter century ago, and I       >>> continue to believe it today.       >>>       >>> The number of poems that were written before time is both infinite and       >>> finite.       >>>       >>> Finite in the specification that they had to have been "written down."       >>> This is another example of the block universe theory that all time       >>> happens simultaneously. In this sense the number of poems is finite, in       >>> that they only come into existence *as* they are written down. This       >>> finite number would therefore be determined by the number of poems that       >>> humankind has been/will be able to write down during the course of their       >>> existence. When AI achieves the ability to compose poetry equivalent       >>> to, or even superior to, that of humans, the finite number of       >>> pre-existent poems is multiplied by a near-infinite amount.       >>>       >>> And, IMHO, the more great poetry that has been rescued from the Platonic       >>> plane of Ideality, and brought into human (or human and AI) culture, the       >>> better.       >>>       >>> Infinite in that a computer (multiplied by billions of computers) can       >>> theoretically compose a near-infinite number of poems in a fraction of a       >>> second. Moreover, since cyberspace has no physical existence, it is       >>> not inconceivable to surmise that at some point in the future it may       >>> reach a state wherein it can exist *outside of* the confines of       >>> Space-Time as *sentient energy.* For the present, it is dependent upon       >>> computers to keep it running -- but that is because it was created by       >>> humans. AI is already designing its own programs, and its limitless       >>> potential exceeds the capabilities of human thought.       >>>       >>> Of course, an infinite number of poems would be too much for any human       >>> being to be capable of learning (even with a computer chip implant, our       >>> physical brain would be unable to process that much information over the       >>> course of a lifetime). But AI would, again, theoretically, be able to       >>> not only "know" all of these poems, but to examine, critique, compare,       >>> and rank them against one another. Can you imagine the *quality* of the       >>> 100 greatest poems as ranked by computers that have knowledge of an       >>> infinite (or near-infinite) number of great poems?       >>>       >>> And, ultimately, it is the poem that matters -- not the poet. And       >>> certainly not whether the poet was a human (who, as Emerson notes, is       >>> prone to "miswrite" the poem) or AI (which, theoretically, should be       >>> able to capture it in its truest, Ideal form).       >>>       >>> --       >       > --              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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