From: wthyde1953@gmail.com   
      
   Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   > Christian Weisgerber wrote:   
   >> On 2025-10-06, The Horny Goat wrote:   
   >>>> And you can drink wine.   
   >>>   
      
   >   
   > And just what IS Falernian wine?   
      
   Falernian, Caecuban, Setinum Alban, and Massic are among the wines   
   favoured by historical novelists, but they are all real.   
      
   Falernian was grown on the slopes of a mountain of similar name, it was   
   white and said to be very strong. Apparently they don't grow grapes   
   there any longer.   
      
   The wine was so popular that counterfeiting became a problem. Pliny   
   and Galen both wrote that most of the Falernian they'd ever been offered   
   was fake. According to classical scholar and novelist David Wishart,   
   there was a heat-treatment that could make inferior wine taste more like   
   Falernian.   
      
   Caecuban, said by some to be better, was grown in Latinum. Nero dug up   
   the Caecuban vinyards looking for treasure. Some speculated that wine   
   growers from other areas started the rumor that queen Dido had buried   
   treasure there.   
      
   Wishart's series of novels have not yet reached Nero. I'd like to hear   
   his protagonist's view on Nero's action (in earlier books he's shown a   
   special love of Caecuban).   
      
   Galen is the last person who reported drinking Caecuban. It's hard to   
   imagine that it wasn't vinegar by his time, but it is said that this   
   wine took a long time to reach its peak, and perhaps some production   
   survived Nero. He also wrote positively about Falernian, which was   
   still a going concern.   
      
   I am confused by Caecuban's reported longevity. It was a white wine   
   which (if I can believe novelists) became darker with age, but white   
   wines are not known for longevity. As far as I know, anyway.   
      
      
   William Hyde   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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