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   William Hyde to Don   
   Re: "Amongst Our Weapons "by Ben Aaronvi   
   13 Oct 25 19:33:14   
   
   From: wthyde1953@gmail.com   
      
   Don wrote:   
   > William Hyde wrote:   
   >> Don wrote:   
   >>> Cryptoengineer wrote:   
   >>>>    Bobbie Sellers wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>        "Amongst Our Weapons "by Ben Aaronvitch   
   >>>>>          Hard cover 294 pages from DAW Books $27 US.   
   >>>>>        Well I may have read this before but it was a romp.   
   >>>>>        Ben Aaronvitch with his Rivers of London series seldom   
   disappoints   
   >>>>>        Amongst Our Weapons is another tale of Peter Grant in the Folly   
   >>>>>        and out to Manchester where he releases, but no that would be   
   >>>>>        telling.  He is a very busy sort with magic rings and heart   
   ripping   
   >>>>>        murders. Lesley is on the scene but still being criminal in her   
   >>>>>        behavior. Even our Tank-breaking wizard Nightengale is not   
   >>>>>        able to handle the Spanish Inquisition's Angel of Death but   
   >>>>>        Peter does and releases the Spanish woman enslaved to be   
   >>>>>        the Angel.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ...though with that title, maybe I should have.   
   >>>   
   >>> The Gaza genocide guy's father, Polish Jew Benzion Mileikowsky, alias   
   >>> Benzion Netanyahu, wrote a book on the Spanish Inquisition entitled THE   
   >>> ORIGINS OF THE INQUISITION IN FIFTEENTH CENTURY SPAIN:   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>> Long story short, Sicut Judaeis prohibits Catholics from mistreating   
   >>> Jews   
   >>   
   >> And the USSR had a wonderful constitution, full of respect for human rights.   
   >>   
   >> Some Jews escaped the inquisition by pointing out that they had never in   
   >> fact been baptized or claimed to be Catholic.  The inquisition, obedient   
   >> to the above, would then turn them over to  the state, whereupon they   
   >> were expelled from Spain, which I think counts as mistreatment.   
   >> Especially as not all survived the expulsion.   
   >>   
   >> This although it was known that the Jewish community in Spain dated at   
   >> least to the second century AD, and probably to some centuries BC,   
   >> arriving with the Phoenicians.  A much longer time then, than those   
   >> noble Spanish who claimed Visigothic ancestry.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> and prohibits Jews from positions of cultural authority over   
   >>> Catholics. The Inquisition exclusively applied only to Catholics. And,   
   >>> from a papal perspective, once a Catholic always a Catholic, until   
   >>> death.   
   >>>       Did some Spanish Jews convert to Catholicism solely because they   
   >>> coveted cultural authority over Catholics? This contention creates   
   >>> controversy.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> About as much controversy as the Flat Earth. But with added racism.   
   >   
   > Your followup certainly confirms controversy, no?   
      
   No.   
      
   If every time we correct someone who says something which is wrong means   
   that the issue is a controversy, then all issues are controversies,   
   which means that no issues are controversies.   
      
   You may find Cecil Roth's "The Spanish Inquisition" enlightening.  It is   
   a old book (1937) written before the current state of Israel existed, it   
   is well written, and short.  Covers the origin and practice of the   
   inquisition, and its persecution of Jews, Muslims, Protestants, and any   
   kind of free thinker.   
      
   Here's a story from the book.  A Spanish aristocrat was well aware that   
   his right-hand man was in reality Jewish.  Unusually for his class, this   
   didn't bother him.  But one day he got news that the inquisition was   
   taking an interest in his assistant.  So, in an audience with other   
   people so he could not speak openly, he said "Gomez, the onions begin to   
   smell".  Gomez left that night and made it safely to France.   
      
   I've always wondered if that was a code phrase they had previously   
   agreed to, or whether in the Spanish of that day that was a metaphor for   
   something going wrong as in "There's something rotten in the state of   
   Denmark", in English.   
      
   William Hyde   
   >   
   > Long story short, Sicut Judaeis prohibits Catholics from mistreating   
   > Jews because Jesus Christ commanded Catholics to love their enemies.   
      
   It's a dead letter.   There's no point in citing it.   
      
   William Hyde   
      
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