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   Lynn McGuire to Your Name   
   Re: Pearls Before Swine: Cell Phone Upda   
   18 Oct 25 17:56:33   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.comics.strips   
   From: lynnmcguire5@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/18/2025 4:46 PM, Your Name wrote:   
   ...   
   > 640KB probably would be enough ... except that Microsloth keeps bloating   
   > their awful software.  :-p   
   >   
   > The Commodore 64 only had 64K of RAM, but is probably more than enough   
   > for the majority of users' needs (emails, web browsing, word processing,   
   > etc.)   
   >   
   > Not that Microsloth are alone in bloating software - the original MacOS   
   > could run off a 400K / 800K floppy disk and still have room for your   
   > documents. Even on my ancient Mac, this MacOS now takes up around 47GB   
   > (including space used for things like caches). Similarly, software like   
   > Photoshop has become massive in size.   
   >   
   > In all cases, the majority of people don't even know about, let alone   
   > use, all the gimmicks in the software.   
   >   
   > It's not just software either. Most don't use all the gimmicks that   
   > over-complicate new cars, and even want to turn off those annoying   
   > gimmicks. Same with appliances around the home - nobody needs a   
   > "smart" / "AI" kettle!   
      
   So you are going stop porting mainframe software down to the PCs, a   
   trend that got started in 1987 with the 80386 ?   
      
   We actually supported our mainframe software on the PC in 1984 using the   
   IBM AT/370 board running at 0.5 mips and 0.1 mflops with 6 MB of ram   
   soldered to a full length daughter board for $14,000 each, including MVS   
   (IIRC, maybe was CMS).  I am fairly sure that we sold over a thousand of   
   these for IBM.  The 80386 / 80387 combo was a welcome change for   
   mainframe software porting down to the PC.   
      
   The newest EMS (engine management systems) crossed 30 million lines of C   
   code at both Ford and Toyota in the last couple of years.  I have no   
   idea how much rom / ram that requires but I suspect at least a gigabyte   
   or sixteen.   
      
   Today, my largest Win32 DLL is 13 MB from 850,000 lines of Fortran code   
   and 50,000 lines of C++ code.  My smallest Win32 DLL is 400 KB.   
      
   Lynn   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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