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   From: noone@nowhere.com   
      
   On 18/10/25 04:14, Cryptoengineer wrote:   
   > On 10/16/2025 11:52 PM, Titus G wrote:   
   >> On 17/10/25 13:41, Dimensional Traveler wrote:   
   >>> On 10/16/2025 1:07 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/16/2025 1:12 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   >>>>> Cryptoengineer wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But both are improving as time goes by. My car installed an OTA   
   >>>>>> update just last night.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Do you think these are insoluble problems?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think there are insoluble problems with self-driving.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 1. Human drivers are lousy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 2. Self-driving cars have to share the road with human drivers   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> 3. Human drivers will always blame self-driving cars in an accident;   
   >>>>> that   
   >>>>> is the standard for driving quality is much higher for the self-   
   >>>>> driving   
   >>>>> car than for a human being.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Tesla claims (and I take the claim with a LOT of salt) that the   
   >>>> cybercabs in Austin are having incidents at 1/10 to 1/8 the rate of   
   >>>> human driven cars. Again, I'd like to see some independent   
   >>>> confirmation.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Once automated driving systems are demonstrably safer than human   
   >>>> drivers, the insurance companies will drive adoption by charging   
   >>>> higher premiums if you insist on driving manually.   
   >>>>   
   >>> I don't know if we are going to reach the point where a non-sentient   
   >>> software bundle can be a better driver than a human. Humans having   
   >>> actual situational awareness and the near infinity of things that   
   >>> _could_ cause a vehicle trouble makes me sceptical, at least for MANY   
   >>> years to come.   
   >>   
   >> My understanding is that the recent major advances in AI quality have   
   >> been because of the access to and use of massive amounts of data. Won't   
   >> the same apply to driving skills of software bundles not made of meat?   
   >> (A sub thread cross reference to the near extinction of NZ farm animals   
   >> due to the influence of vegan would be rulers.)   
   >   
   > The Teslas use a neural net. Training that neural net requires vast   
   > amounts of data and a huge amount of compute, but once the nodes and   
   > weights are set and downloaded to the car, operating the net is   
   > less resource intensive.   
   >   
   > The computers in the car are still pretty powerful.   
   >   
   > Here's a deep dive:   
   > https://www.autopilotreview.com/tesla-hardware-4-rolling-out-to-new-   
   > vehicles/   
      
   A bit too deep for me so I skimmed it and watched part of the impressive   
   Autopilot Review in the   
   Tesla FSD v14 Out – First Impressions   
   sub section. Thank you.   
      
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