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   From: YourName@YourISP.com   
      
   On 2025-10-19 02:20:29 +0000, Bobbie Sellers said:   
   > On 10/18/25 14:46, Your Name wrote:   
   >> On 2025-10-18 16:22:58 +0000, Paul S Person said:   
   >>> On Fri, 17 Oct 2025 08:54:48 -0700, Bobbie Sellers   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/17/25 05:47, Scott Dorsey wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>>>> When somebody runs over a pedestrian it doesn't even make the newspaper   
   in   
   >>>>> a big city.  It might make page three of the weekly paper here in rural   
   >>>>> Virginia, along with the article about the high schooler who got a   
   >>>>> scholarship to Yale and the new hotdog shop opening.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> These days you are lucky to have a Newspaper in a major conurbation.   
   >>>> The accidents are frequently covered on TV in San Francisco and   
   >>>> sometimes the SF Chronicle will give the accident and susequent   
   >>>> problems space especially if the term "DUI" comes up.  The incidents   
   >>>> covered involving the driverless vehicles show that people are   
   >>>> interferring with vehicles more often than vehicles are interfering   
   >>>> with people. Auto-navigating Cars have not been designed to deal with   
   >>>> anti-car protesters.   
   >>>   
   >>> An excellent illustration of the failure of programmers to consider   
   >>> all the possibilities.   
   >>>   
   >>> Kind of like when Microsoft decided that "640KB RAM was all anybody   
   >>> could ever need".   
   >>   
   >> 640KB probably would be enough ... except that Microsloth keeps   
   >> bloating their awful software.  :-p   
   >>   
   >> The Commodore 64 only had 64K of RAM, but is probably more than enough   
   >> for the majority of users' needs (emails, web browsing, word   
   >> processing, etc.)   
   >   
   > 	We did not do email except thru BBS on the C=64. There was no Web to browse.   
      
   No, but there's no real reason the C64 couldn't do email and web   
   browsing then (if it had existed) or even now ... other than the fact   
   that websites have also become very over-bloated, and again mostly with   
   gimmicky nonsense.   
      
      
      
   > We did do word processing with inserted formatting.  People used it to   
   > write games, other programs and so forth because it had for that time   
   > excellent graphic capability.   
   > 	   
   > 	The Amiga came along and it was not originally designed for Internet use.   
   > It did not even come with facilities for hard drive use.  i got a GVP+   
   > SCSI host card with in the "+" room for 8 GB of ram on sims.  But   
   > AmigaOS had a modular design and updates after AOS 1.3 added some   
   > capability for hard drive use and for internet security. But AmigaOS   
   > 3.9 did not have any memory management capabillity and the result was   
   > you could not depend on a program like a text processor and a Web   
   > browser running together without crashing.  It was very good at Web   
   > browsing and Usenet and email. but again no memory management.  Memory   
   > management was omitted in the adoption of TriOS to AmigaOS because it   
   > was designed to run on a single 68000 CPU with graphics and sound   
   > offloaded to co-processors. This design was made to be less expensive   
   > to the consumer and to the builders of the Amiga hardware.   
   >   
   >> Not that Microsloth are alone in bloating software - the original MacOS   
   >> could run off a 400K / 800K floppy disk and still have room for your   
   >> documents. Even on my ancient Mac, this MacOS now takes up around 47GB   
   >> (including space used for things like caches). Similarly, software like   
   >> Photoshop has become massive in size.   
   >   
   > 	I don't call that bloatware but i use Linux.  I cannot run Photoshop   
   > let alone afford it.   I got my C-64 new, my Amiga computers were all   
   > at least second-hand. Memory chips/simms and Hard drives were   
   > fabulously expensive and that was before inflation had set in hard.   
   >   
   >> In all cases, the majority of people don't even know about, let alone   
   >> use, all the gimmicks in the software.   
   >   
   > 	Of course not. Most people do not realize the possibilities of image   
   > modifications.   
      
   Most users couldn't even care less about image modification. :-)   
   They just want to do email, websites, word processing, and to a lesser   
   extent play games.   
      
   Even those that do use more overly-complex software like Photoshop   
   don't actually use most of the "features" in it. In many ways such   
   programs would be better off being a simple core program that can have   
   features added to via 'plug-ins' (which Photoshop does do as well as   
   havin it's own in-built feature bloat) *if * the user actually wants   
   them.   
      
      
      
   >> It's not just software either. Most don't use all the gimmicks that   
   >> over-complicate new cars, and even want to turn off those annoying   
   >> gimmicks. Same with appliances around the home - nobody needs a "smart"   
   >> / "AI" kettle!   
   >   
   > 	Yes and I want to turn off AI intrusion into my Firefox as I find it   
   > annoying. When I enter a URL or clickon it I want to go there not be   
   > bothered by an AI telling me it can or cannot preview it.   
   >   
   > 	Some people could use AI in the kitchen though because I have one friend   
   > who cannot boil water because he forgets to deal with it. Residual   
   > brain damage from a childhood accident.   
   >   
   > bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2025.10 Linux 6.12.53-pclos1- KDE   
   > Plasma 6.4.5   
      
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