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   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 10:46:48 +1300, Your Name    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 2025-10-18 16:22:58 +0000, Paul S Person said:   
      
      
      
   >> Kind of like when Microsoft decided that "640KB RAM was all anybody   
   >> could ever need".   
   >   
   >640KB probably would be enough ... except that Microsloth keeps    
   >bloating their awful software.  :-p   
      
   Tell me about it.   
      
   XP started out needing 2GB (I typed "2MB" but surely that is not   
   correct) but ended up needing 4GB. It just took more and more and more   
   and more space.   
      
   I do Full Backups every week (AOMEI). Judging from those, Win 10/11   
   are pretty stable in terms of size-on-disk.   
      
   OK, things did go up a bit when a new version was installed -- but   
   after a few weeks, it went down again.   
      
   >The Commodore 64 only had 64K of RAM, but is probably more than enough    
   >for the majority of users' needs (emails, web browsing, word    
   >processing, etc.)   
   >   
   >Not that Microsloth are alone in bloating software - the original MacOS    
   >could run off a 400K / 800K floppy disk and still have room for your    
   >documents. Even on my ancient Mac, this MacOS now takes up around 47GB    
   >(including space used for things like caches). Similarly, software like    
   >Photoshop has become massive in size.   
   >   
   >In all cases, the majority of people don't even know about, let alone    
   >use, all the gimmicks in the software.   
      
   I don't even bother to read about all the nifty new stuff when Edge   
   updates itself or I install an update.   
      
   The only reason I checked on Win 11's 25H2 this morning is because it   
   didn't take any time to download and not much to install yesterday,   
   which doesn't match my memory of the process for Win 10. Once I found   
   that it was mostly activating stuff from prior updates, though, I   
   stopped reading. All I wanted was an explanation of why it was so   
   fast; the new stuff is of no interest.   
      
   >It's not just software either. Most don't use all the gimmicks that    
   >over-complicate new cars, and even want to turn off those annoying    
   >gimmicks. Same with appliances around the home - nobody needs a "smart"    
   >/ "AI" kettle!   
      
   I would love to be able to tell Bing to take it's AI stuff and shove   
   it, but I don't seem to be able to find a setting for that.   
      
   Although a connected house does appear in, IIRC, /The Martian   
   Chronicles/ (bravely trying to fight a fire consuming it), it has   
   /never/ made sense to me.   
      
   Although, if/when I convert to a heat pump, a wireless thermostat   
   (that is, one that connects to the heat pump/whatever else is needed   
   without requiring a third wire to be pulled to join the two now in   
   use, not just an "app" that controls a wired thermostat) would   
   probably be a good idea (pulling wire is, I am told, expensive).   
      
   But I expect it will turn out that no such thing exists. It would,   
   after all, be convenient rather than sexy.   
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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