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   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:51:07 -0700, Bobbie Sellers   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 10/19/25 09:12, Paul S Person wrote:   
      
      
      
   >> Although, if/when I convert to a heat pump, a wireless thermostat   
   >> (that is, one that connects to the heat pump/whatever else is needed   
   >> without requiring a third wire to be pulled to join the two now in   
   >> use, not just an "app" that controls a wired thermostat) would   
   >> probably be a good idea (pulling wire is, I am told, expensive).   
   >>    
   >> But I expect it will turn out that no such thing exists. It would,   
   >> after all, be convenient rather than sexy.   
   >	Heat pumps are expensive in any event in initial cost but can help a lot   
   >   with heating/cooling bills. About 40 miles East of San Francisco    
   >behind the   
   >   Coastal Range is a belt where heating and cooling are major expenses.   
   >   I would not live their if I could not have a heat pump to handle the    
   >heating   
   >   and cooling of a residence.   
      
   I am put off by the nonsense being spouted ("free" A/C when you have   
   to pay for the electricity used to run the heat pump). And the   
   descriptions of how to use one (same temp 24/7).   
      
   I had a furnace replaced about 20 years ago. They basically assembled   
   it from about a gazillion parts. It took all day. I really don't   
   expect a heat pump to be the same, but I won't know till I decide/am   
   forced to have it done.   
      
      
      
   >	Wire pulling would be the least of your expenses with the heat pumps.   
      
   I don't know about that; I found a few years back where Consumer   
   Reports stated that the average cost of a heat pump was now around   
   $8K. When I asked about it back when my furnace was being replaced, it   
   was around $25K. $25K is quite expensive; $8K is less so (still   
   expensive, though).   
      
   I notice a distinct lack of answers to my question about using WiFi   
   (or Bluetooth) to control a heat pump. Thus avoiding the pulling of   
   wires.   
      
   Then again, there is always Ethernet-over-house-wiring, which might   
   work if the bit rate between the thermostat and the heat pump controls   
   is low enough for this to work.   
      
   >	Review the This Old House Show  on PBS where you can access back   
   >   episodes where they have dealt with very expensive installations using   
   >    deep wells drilled to take advantage of the temperature of the Earth.   
      
   If I actually watched TV (haven't for decades, except when watching a   
   DVD or BD), and had any desire to watch such shows (I have no such   
   desire at all and, anyway, regard anything I see on a screen as   
   entertainment, even if it claims to be factual),  I'd rather watch   
   shows about how houses like mine installed one with minimal nonsense   
   and expense. I see no point in irrelevant examples.   
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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