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   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 10/20/25 08:51, Paul S Person wrote:   
   > On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:51:07 -0700, Bobbie Sellers   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/19/25 09:12, Paul S Person wrote:   
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   >   
   >>> Although, if/when I convert to a heat pump, a wireless thermostat   
   >>> (that is, one that connects to the heat pump/whatever else is needed   
   >>> without requiring a third wire to be pulled to join the two now in   
   >>> use, not just an "app" that controls a wired thermostat) would   
   >>> probably be a good idea (pulling wire is, I am told, expensive).   
   >>>   
   >>> But I expect it will turn out that no such thing exists. It would,   
   >>> after all, be convenient rather than sexy.   
   >> Heat pumps are expensive in any event in initial cost but can help a lot   
   >> with heating/cooling bills. About 40 miles East of San Francisco   
   >> behind the   
   >> Coastal Range is a belt where heating and cooling are major expenses.   
   >> I would not live their if I could not have a heat pump to handle the   
   >> heating   
   >> and cooling of a residence.   
   >   
   > I am put off by the nonsense being spouted ("free" A/C when you have   
   > to pay for the electricity used to run the heat pump). And the   
   > descriptions of how to use one (same temp 24/7).   
   >   
   > I had a furnace replaced about 20 years ago. They basically assembled   
   > it from about a gazillion parts. It took all day. I really don't   
   > expect a heat pump to be the same, but I won't know till I decide/am   
   > forced to have it done.   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >> Wire pulling would be the least of your expenses with the heat pumps.   
   >   
   > I don't know about that; I found a few years back where Consumer   
   > Reports stated that the average cost of a heat pump was now around   
   > $8K. When I asked about it back when my furnace was being replaced, it   
   > was around $25K. $25K is quite expensive; $8K is less so (still   
   > expensive, though).   
   >   
   > I notice a distinct lack of answers to my question about using WiFi   
   > (or Bluetooth) to control a heat pump. Thus avoiding the pulling of   
   > wires.   
   >   
   > Then again, there is always Ethernet-over-house-wiring, which might   
   > work if the bit rate between the thermostat and the heat pump controls   
   > is low enough for this to work.   
   >   
   >> Review the This Old House Show on PBS where you can access back   
   >> episodes where they have dealt with very expensive installations using   
   >> deep wells drilled to take advantage of the temperature of the Earth.   
   >   
   > If I actually watched TV (haven't for decades, except when watching a   
   > DVD or BD), and had any desire to watch such shows (I have no such   
   > desire at all and, anyway, regard anything I see on a screen as   
   > entertainment, even if it claims to be factual), I'd rather watch   
   > shows about how houses like mine installed one with minimal nonsense   
   > and expense. I see no point in irrelevant examples.   
      
    Well they have covered that possibility several times lately. Window   
   hung heat   
   pumps are fine for smaller spaces and fairly easy to install. TOH   
   frequently does   
   stuff in the North-Eastern states. You might contact the production   
   company   
   and ask concerning your particular situation and if it has been covered in   
   a particular show. They also have a show "Ask This Old House" which usual   
   covers minor problems but it might be a place to start. This is a PBS show   
   which can be reached through the PBS website.   
      
    I myself prefer for computers written material rather than the many   
   free videos provided online for people who don't have 30 years of experience   
   with personal computers. But PBS has lots of shows that are primarily   
   instructional with wood working and painting as sterling examples.   
      
    I used to contemplate using what I learn from watching the show   
   "This Old House" in some future but my future is nearly over and I still   
   watch the show because it shows how things are really done.   
      
    bliss   
      
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