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   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 10/21/25 09:04, Paul S Person wrote:   
   > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 16:22:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> Paul S Person  writes:   
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   >   
   >>> I am put off by the nonsense being spouted ("free" A/C when you have   
   >>> to pay for the electricity used to run the heat pump). And the   
   >>> descriptions of how to use one (same temp 24/7).   
   >>   
   >> The "Free A/C" likely refers to the fact that the compressor   
   >> can be used for both heating and cooling, one need not   
   >> purchase a separate A/C compressor as with conventional   
   >> forced air heating systems.   
   >   
   > Or not, as in my case.   
   >   
   > Until the Blob of a decade or so ago, AC was rarely needed here.   
   >   
   > More recently it has become a much more reasonable idea.   
   >   
   > Not last summer, however. Lots of nice sunny days, and several   
   > shopping days where I went in the morning ("70s feels like 80s")   
   > rather than the afternoons ("80s feels like 90s"), but nothing like   
   > the summers before ("90s feels like 100s" and worse).   
   >   
   >>> I had a furnace replaced about 20 years ago.   
   >>   
   >> So did I.   
   >>   
   >>> They basically assembled   
   >>> it from about a gazillion parts.   
   >>   
   >> They removed the outer box and placed in in the closet,   
   >> plumbed in the gas, attached the thermostat wiring and   
   >> plugged it in.  Replacing the cold air return venting   
   >> took far longer (total job was about 2 hours).   
   >   
   > Ah, but that was gas.   
   >   
   > Mine was oil. Currently burning Bioheat (C) Fuel, which is basically   
   > diesel plus enought biofuel to avoid a tax passed by the city some   
   > time back. Or maybe a bit more biofuel, who can say?   
   >   
   > As to being forced, I don't know how that is coming along. The plan I   
   > last heard about involved updating the Fire Code to make all existing   
   > oil tanks illegal [1]. They would have to retired (hello, heat pump!)   
   > or replaced with a modern version satisfying the code.   
   >   
   > [1] Apparently, there was a major push back in the 50s (when my   
   > parents went from coal to oil) to convert to oil, so most of those   
   > tanks are now 75 or so years old. So this may be a prudent thing to   
   > do, as leaks are ecodisasters, particularly if they leave your   
   > property and affect your neighbors.   
      
   	All the old fuel standby are obsolete from a pollution basis. In San   
   Francisco   
   old oil tanks are still being pulled from the ground/usually the street   
   in front of an   
   apartment building. Gas is still being pushed for household use by the   
   builders of   
   fine gas stoves.  Electrical stoves are the coming things with   
   resistance or   
   inductive heating along with convection ovens that cook more rapidly.   
      
   >>   
   >>> I notice a distinct lack of answers to my question about using WiFi   
   >>> (or Bluetooth) to control a heat pump. Thus avoiding the pulling of   
   >>> wires.   
   >>   
   >> I'll take wires over either of your mentioned alternatives, myself.   
      
   	Direct control of a heat pump is enough for me but still cannot afford   
   the money.   
      
   	bliss   
      
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