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   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 16:34:27 +1100, sjharker@aussiebroadband.com.au   
   (Stephen Harker) wrote:   
      
   >Titus G  writes:   
   >   
   >> On 21/10/25 04:51, Paul S Person wrote:   
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   >>> I don't know about that; I found a few years back where Consumer   
   >>> Reports stated that the average cost of a heat pump was now around   
   >>> $8K. When I asked about it back when my furnace was being replaced, it   
   >>> was around $25K. $25K is quite expensive; $8K is less so (still   
   >>> expensive, though).   
   >>   
   >> Three years ago, I had another heat pump installed for NZ$3K.   
   >   
   >I replaced a 20+ year old  head pump (non-inverter) with an inverter   
   >heat-pump at AUD3.5k for much of the house and a smaller one for AUD2.4k   
   >for two other roomsin 2022.  I also replaced the gas hot-water unit with   
   >a heat-pump hot water service. Then I replaced the gas oven and cooktop   
   >with an electric oven and induction cooktop AUD4k.  Then I had solar   
   >installed and now have a yearly energy bill of under AUD170 saving about   
   >AUD1,1k per year.   
   >   
   >>> I notice a distinct lack of answers to my question about using WiFi   
   >>> (or Bluetooth) to control a heat pump. Thus avoiding the pulling of   
   >>> wires.   
   >   
   >I avoid WiFi, even my solar inverter is connecteted by ethernet.     
   >   
   >> Both mine have limited range remote controls but my three year old heat   
   >> pump is almost as dumb as the ten year old one which is slightly more   
   >> clever than my $10 electric kettle which requires close proximity to be   
   >> switched on manually.   
   >   
   >Both of mine have remote controls and can be controlled by WiFi, but as   
   >said I don't use it, but it is there if I need to or change my mind.   
      
   Thanks for the information.   
      
   As I understand it, the "heating plan" being advised for greatest   
   efficiency is to pick a temperature and stay there. Presumably, you   
   would be picking two: one for heating, one for cooling, but it could   
   be that the people advising really do mean "one temperature".   
      
   Which would make the need to communicate with the heat pump very rare.   
   But, when thinking about doing something, I like to explore all the   
   possibilities -- which means all the things that can be seen to be   
   problematic. Of course, this can lead to some very strange concerns.   
   --    
   "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,   
   Who evil spoke of everyone but God,   
   Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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