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   Bobbie Sellers to Paul S Person   
   Re: Pearls Before Swine: Cell Phone Upda   
   24 Oct 25 09:43:07   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.comics.strips   
   From: bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com   
      
   On 10/24/25 09:27, Paul S Person wrote:   
   > On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 09:37:02 +1300, Your Name    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >> 3D in every form has never really been popular, partly thanks to   
   >> needing silly glasses of one type or another. There are new computer   
   >> monitors that do 3D without needing glasses, which might move up to   
   >> bigger TV screens, but again it's really just a gimmick to part fools   
   >>from their money, and there will be hardly any actual content to watch   
   >> (other than perhaps a re-release of the few awful old 3D movies, like   
   >> "Jaws 3D").   
   >   
   > /Consumer Reports/ reviewed HDTVs which could play "3d" (stereoscopic)   
   > movies without glasses, This works by putting each image out on   
   > alternate lines. Kind of like interlacing, although I do not recall if   
   > that was actually used.   
   >   
   > Their report was that this worked -- but, of course, resolution was   
   > halved and so the result was clearly inferior.   
   >   
   > It did occur to me that doing this with a 4K TV would produce 2K   
   > resolution, which might work acceptably. It should go without saying   
   > that such a set would play non-"3d" (stereoscopic) movies at 4K   
   > (upscaled if necessary). I don't recall if a special player was   
   > needed.   
   >   
      
   	With the 8 K you could get 4 K resolution which might be good enough.   
   	With the 16 K you could get 8 K resolution which will be more than enough   
   for the immediate future if the USA does not go to hell in a handbasket   
   along with   
   the rest of the world.  You might find work for AI in upgrading old   
   material to   
   the new standards.   
      
   > And this presumes that /Consumer Reports/ took the appropriate steps   
   > when I wrote into them about their first DVD player article. This had   
   > two problems:   
   >   
   > 1. It complained that it could not record, thus showing that the   
   > Consumer's Union believed each and every one of its members was in   
   > intentional and frequent violation of the copyright laws by recording   
   > over-the-air programming. IOW, it thought we were all thieves.   
   > 2. It asserted that P&S (pan-and-scan) films were for older 4:3 TVs,   
   > while LB (letterboxed) films were for 16:9 HDTVs.   
      
      
   	No they though we were all time shifters i.e. watching shows after   
   the broadcast time.  I used to do that but i figured out eventually I could   
   never find enough time to watch all the interesting sounding stuff.   
      
   >   
   > I wrote them a letter covering the first point and pointing out that   
   > letterboxing was not done to fit the screen, but rather to satisfy the   
   > market for films that were actually all there instead of being cut off   
   > on the sides. I, myself, replaced many P&S VHS films with LB VHS films   
   > (and then with LB DVDs) because I only buy films I really want to see,   
   > and I really want to see the entire film, not just the "important"   
   > bits P&S presents. This included an essay on aspect ratios which I   
   > will spare you all.   
   >   
   > I also suggested they find someone who actually understood this stuff   
   > to do the tests/reviews in the future.   
   >   
   > So it is possible that they did, in fact, find people who had at least   
   > some idea of what was going on and the review of TVs able to play   
   > "3d" (stereoscopic) films without special glasses was written by them.   
   > And the claim that the reduced resolution actually mattered when "3d"   
   > (stereoscopic) films were watched may have been based on actual   
   > comparison testing and not just "the resolution is halved, that /must/   
   > be a problem" thinking.   
      
   	Personally I am happy with a decent HD screen on the TV but lately as the   
   weather undergoes changes I am lucky to have one good channel out of   
   over 50.   
   Too many religious channels in most of the common languages.   
      
   	Cable is beyond my present means.   
   	bliss   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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